More REPUBLICANS Than DEMOCRATS Likely DIED FROM COVID-19, Study Says

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"In 2018 and the early parts of 2020, excess death rates for Republicans and Democrats are similar, and centered around zero," wrote the researchers, Jacob Wallace, Jason L. Schwartz and Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham. "Both groups experienced a similar large spike in excess deaths in the winter of 2020-2021. However, in the summer of 2021 — after vaccines were widely available — the Republican excess death rate rose to nearly double that of Democrats, and this gap widened further in the winter of 2021."

The excess death rate for people of both parties was about 37% greater in late 2020 than it was a year earlier, according to a chart accompanying the report. But after vaccines became widely available in the spring of 2020, big disparities began to emerge.

Excess deaths among Democrats at the end of last year were just above 10% compared to 2019. Among Republicans, they were about 35%, the chart said.

The researchers didn't have data regarding vaccination rates among the excess deaths. But other research shows that the unvaccinated and the unboosted are much more likely to be made seriously ill by the coronavirus.

A paper published last month in JAMA Internal Medicine said that the unvaccinated are 10.5 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID. The unboosted are 2.5 times more likely, it said.

The Yale researchers said the partisan divergence in excess deaths after vaccines became available is likely attributable to vaccination rates.

"This sharp contrast in the excess death rate gap before and after vaccines were available suggests that vaccine take-up likely played an important role," they wrote. "Data on vaccine take-up by party is limited and unavailable in our dataset, but there is evidence of differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake based on political party affiliation."
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Pretty straightforward, as long as these Yale researchers know their math. Excess deaths from Covid-19 were comparable between registered Democrats & registered Republicans, until the vaccines BECAME WIDELY AVAILABLE. Then the excess began running significantly higher (in Florida & Ohio), for our Republican friends, than for Democratic ones. The most likely, differentiating factor, was VACCINATION RATES.

 

socialist government waste even studying this. it is only common sense that no one dies of the covid hoax (covid is a HOAX invented by dr fauci killing beagles in order to defraud our glorious and forever anointed president ...... . duh) people ARE dying from the vaccine, though. why i know a lady who got vaccinated and next thing you know she was dead.

 

No surprise there.

What IS surprising is that, even yesterday, more than 400 people died in the US of covid. This is totally unnecessary, with vaccines and paxlovid widely available. Why doctors are not prescribing paxlovid more is beyond me. My guess: Most of the anti-vaxxers will not take ANY covid medication, be it vaxxines or an anti-viral. Why? Because covid has been SO politicized. Thank you Fox News and RW media. These excess deaths are squarely on their shoulders.

Amazing that people are so much willing to die for their silly political ideology. That, and the misguided belief that it is only the others that are dying -- until it hits themselves, and then it is too late.

 

Not surprising. While certainly not uniform, there were definitely more folks on the right who thought the whole thing was a hoax because Trump and the man on the radio told them it was. My wife is an RN at our local hospital in the COVID unit and has had a few patients over the years who were in the ICU for COVID who still, even then, thought they were being tricked because Covid was supposed to be a hoax.

But those types of people aside, there were also more folks on the right who resisted the safeguards because it made them feel like patriots and rebels to make stupid health decisions. These selfish asshats could never quite grasp that part of the reason for all of the protocols was to protect the hospitals and keep them from being overrun with patients(which happened anyway in many places, but would have been that much worse). Hospitals are not automated, they rely on trained staff of which there is a finite supply. That's why traveling nurses and doctors were making a mint during the pandemic, which both helped the hospitals they traveled to, and hurt the hospitals they traveled from. There were too many folks during 2020-21 who never quite learned the lesson that sometimes, it's not about you. Yes, sometimes the world does not revolve around you and what you feel you're entitled to. And we wonder why the younger generations are so selfish. They learned it from the generation that came before them who just did a little bit better job of hiding it.

 

Sadly, there is a price to pay for denying reality.

 

The new populist pseudo-con variant of Republicans are far more likely to buy into conspiracy theories than anything I have seen in my life. So, yes, many truly believed the whole thing was a hoax, and refused the jab which could have save their lives. It cost them their lives, but it was their own choice. The funny thing is that they WOULD HAVE taken it if their leader had won re-election. They would have been told the jab is good, and they would have believed it, and they would have praised their leader for giving it to them.

 

I meant to include this in my earlier post.

Another reason that more Republicans than Democrats may have succumbed to COVID may be related to the average age of a Republican versus a Democrat. Older folks are more likely to be Republican and they are also the demographic more likely to have complications from COVID.

 

That's a really good point; though I assume that age has been taken into consideration in the criteria which determines the expected number of deaths, within a group, so that "excess deaths (beyond the expected)" could be calculated.

It shows that your thinking, though, in a reasoning way (unlike some of the unnecessarily deceased did).

 

Thats why Dems were the ones eagerly consuming Trumps rushed pharma product. I would understand that belief in times of uncertainty, but we have years of non-partisan data showing how ineffective Trumps warp speed product is. Also. Before the product, the risk for healthy people was close to zero.

If anything, you can make a case that the risk/reward ratio makes it a product the elderly, sick, and frail should consider consuming it.

 

I'm pretty sure people took the jab because they listened to their doctors advice.

Sorry, but that fails the common sense / logic test, because we are talking about time period where it would have been flat out impossible to have years of data. Nice attempt at making stuff up though.

Either way, the data is in and it shows lot more Republicans bought the "its a hoax" line, and refused the jab, and a lot more of them died (twice as many).

 

On the other hand, younger folks socialize more often, making covid transmission more likely. Plus, Dems are more concentrated in cities, with higher population densities and international airports, again making covid import and transmission more likely. That's why NY City always gets the new variants first. It will be interesting what statisticians find out when they play with these data in more controlled circumstances.

 

The Pharma product was pushed heavily using scare tactics and guilt. Remember when those who refused were trying to kill grandma? That turned out to be false.

Here are some facts. The risk of hospitalization/death for young, healthy people was close to zero before Trump started selling his pharma product. The risk for children was even lower.

Now you are asking me to consume a "conclusion" that being a Republican is the main factor in hospitalization/death. What about the age of the patient and their underlying medical conditions?

 

Most of those dead Republicans were in the risk groups who would have benefitted most from the jab. They made their choice and now they are dead and buried, so who gives a rip. When people die of stupidity, others usually shrug and move on, so maybe you can do the same.

I am not asking you anything.

I suppose I could ask you to spare me form the "IT'S A HOAX" nonsense. I have heard it often enough.

 

As I have proven, healthy white people were LAST on the list to get vaccines. Their plan to lessen the republican population worked very well.

 

I have always believe that being a Republican is bad for your health. The problem is when being a Republican is bad for the health of non-Republicans. Of course, the Covid vaccine not only made YOU less likely to die. It made you less likely to CATCH it and transmit it. However, likelihood was not zero.

But I'm sure this extends to other health topics. Like Global Warming, in which Republicans have put us ALL in danger by blocking every attempt to stop it, when there was still time to stop it, and to mitigate the effects today. This is why you had Republican Senators voting against allocating money to mitigate before the last hurricane, and desperately looking for more money AFTER.

I can also imagine at one point Republicans who didn't take precautions to avoid AIDS because they had been convinced it was a "gay-only" disease (or a "punishment from God for being gay", if you will). And, of course, Republicans were notorious for stating that the claim that cigarette smoking was the leading cause of preventable death was "liberal alarmist rhetoric". As was all alerts about Asbestos. Which BTW, Trump attempted to bring back and.... I think the bill that would ban it is still being held up by Republicans. One wonders how many Republicans believed this, and died because of it.

 

Such an evil plan: put an idiot in the Presidency who would mishandle the pandemic and then convince his followers that it was "like the flu" and that it would go away "like a miracle" or by just ingesting disinfectant, but not by getting the vaccine.

Diabolical indeed.

 

Ah, yes, the Trump supporters didn't get the Trump vaccine because they were put last in line by evil Dems, not because they were convinced by RW media that the vaccines were either tracking devices injected into them, or death shots that killed more than covid. Well, I can't say I am surprised that such B$ conspiracy theories are coming from a known 2020 election denier. People, please come back to reality. Your 24/7 immersion in RW media is converting your brains to mush, and also can kill you, as we are seeing in this report.

 

Yup. We talked to our Dr. first, and she said that she was quite skeptical that it happened so fast, until she started reading how it all came about. I don't remember all the words she said, but, having been my doctor for almost 20 years, I have absolutely learned to trust her about such things.

There were quite a few deniers who said they talked to their doctor, and their doctor told them the whole thing is a hoax. Color me skeptical on the truth of those claims.

 

We are healthy and white. We had no issue getting the vaccine around the same time as everyone else. This includes our very healthy 23 year old son. I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

So taking into fact that every country suffered the same tragedy from misinformation early on, "Bat Soup, Open Markets, only effecting animals, no human to human transmission" and my favorite HERD IMMUNITY

Trump got the same information from the CDC and WHO as the rest of the world and yet Trump is the bad guy and the Chineses get no blame from the DNC or their base..

The only mistake Trump and other world leaders made was not demanding China stop international flight in and out of China the Epicenter..

 

Ah, so their party was not the main factor. (Or a factor at all) Is your display of schadenfreude supposed to make them look bad?

Covid is not a hoax; it is a virus. One side took the alarmist rout while the other sold more of a rose colored view. In the end, big pharma enjoyed record profits while the main factor in Covid hospitalizations/deaths remains ignored. Do you know why Americans are so fat and sick?

The truth is that they did not die from stupidity or from Covid. They were already sick and covid was the straw that broke the camels back.

 

This data is inconclusive! This saga is still active today, the best the vaccine did was prolong infection, not immunity! To date, there has not been a real study of how many Americans were immune from the start! The numbers of covid infection and death are still climbing and until the fat lady sing it all just guessing..

 

If you say so. I don't know of any doctor who said "it's a hoax", or any hospital who pushed such message.

 

No, not doctors. COVID deniers on this forum claimed their doctor told them COVID was a hoax. I'm calling those claims BS.

 

Well, I suppose Republicans are heck of a lot sicker than independents or Dems, because they died at a higher rate. Well, according to the study they died at same rate as everyone else until the jab became available and death rates got lower among those who took it. Isn't that what "survival of the fittest" is all about?

Got it. I was wondering, because I have doctors in my family and none of them heard of such doctors or hospitals.