Morgan Freeman on Connecticut Shooter

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  1. The Real American Thinker

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    Freeman is right.. These copycats are inspired by notoriety.



    Freeman’s words give pause for thought and reflection. I pose this question to the reader: What do you think? Are people seeking attention and notoriety because of the way the media portrays them? People who commit suicide often feel like they are alone and a nobody. In this case did Lanza decide he wanted to go down in history books by making his name synonymous with monstrosity?

    I’m not sure we will ever truly know why the events unfolded the way they did. Let’s take Freeman’s advice and remember the names of the children we lost.
     
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    Anne Marie Murphy, 07/25/60, female

    Why anyone?

    "You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem." http://www.examiner.com/article/morgan-freeman-on-adam-lanza

    Cannot really do that if we do not know the shooter was mentally ill (and the extent) and not a terrorist like in Beslan, which this could have been just as political.

    They may be inspired by notoriety, but that could be said to be due to a lack adequate moral instruction and a lack of fear of God or it could be related to the politics of shocking society with a total contempt for all life and could be political.
     
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    this is just silly because it's just the way it is. First of all, the murderers are more easily remembered because they are just 1 or 2 whilst victims are a lot more. During colombine, the victims were talked about a lot and today, CNN has spent most of the time talking about the victims like the principal, the kids who died and some teachers who were heroes. It seems to me that the victims are being given more airtime that Adam Lanza but 10 years from now, most will remember Adam Lanza, not the victims. WHY? Pretty simple, he commited an attrocity, a horror, which affected a lot of people and it's not easy to erase that. Also, as stated above, people will not be able to remember 26 victims but 1 murderer they will. Even though some of these victims will get more air time than him, he is the one who will be remembered in the long run. This has nothing to do with media giving the shooters too much attention at the expense of the victims, it's how the human mind works. Whne someone is googling the Norway massacre or other massacres they want to know WHO did it, not the names of all the victims. People want to know more about the gunman in hopes that studying him, more can be understood and future killings prevented. It IS important to study these killers... Unfortunately, they become famous but most people view them as losers or crazy people and not 'martyrs' or heroes
     
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    I will cut Freeman some slack here.He's not far off.It used to be that we had some
    form of standard against possible creation of a heinous killer as something to
    focus on.Richard Speck was the standard.Try not and focus too much on a Loser
    with a Tatto that read ... " Born To Raise Hell ". Then Serial Killers were getting the
    upper hand.It became an obsession in this Land.Ed Gein was popularized as a
    manaical,pathetic mad Ogre.Horror films of that type are now all the rage.
    Dungeons & Dragons - was also instrumental in converting young minds of
    mush into possible Geeks or Today's Goth's.
    However I find it outright Implausible for a Kid SO shy to be able to do something
    that took huge almost insurmountable Boldness.
    How come the Media has dropped entirely all mention of that 2 possible shooter.
    How come each child that was near the event was given a personal officer to
    be with them at home.For what.In acse they start talking about maybe things that
    go against a Lone Gunman.
    I also find it implausable for This Adam to use guns and an assualt rifle w/o
    a lot of target practice.Why were there 3 weapons.2 hand guns and an assualt rifle.
    To make the case against all 3 in the event of a Gun Ban.
    I guess we're all to believe that Adam's mother found it necessary to buy/have an
    assualt weapon around the house.a $ 1.6 Million dollar House.
    Americans are so gullible.
     
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    I didn't know any of these children and the fact that its always tragic when people have their lifes taken, it does me no good to remember their names. In reality they are faceless victims who fell to one individual.

    Its like saying its more important to remember the names of 6 million Jews over Hitler. That's nonesense.

    Maybe by focusing on the killer we will find out the problem and prevent a tragedy such as this from happening in the future.
     
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    There's a good chance this wasn't actually written or said by Freeman, but I agree with the message (despite the ironic employment of celebrity identity criticized by the writer to attract attention to this message).
     
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    The news has released the names of the 20 children and the 6 ladies at the school whom the shooter killed, together with the shooter's mother whom he killed at her home.

    Names are things that your parents give you when you are born.

    Normally you are named after someone else in your extended family or clan.

    Names are just names.

    The shooter will always be remembered by his act, as the CT elementary school shooter -- this is now his new name.

    His old name is meaningless and will be forgotten long before his heinous act will be forgotten.
     
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    I agree completely
     
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    Yep, let Morgan Freeman and the others focus on the children.

    I for one want this man's entire life story dissected and splashed across all news outlets so hopefully a pattern can be discerned and people may recognize these problems in another individual before other innocent children die.

    Pacifism doesn't solve any problems.
     
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    Hitler's name is still notorious after all these many decades, how ironic.

    There is an elementary school shooting in CT and so someone is again inspired to mention Hitler's name.

    I wonder if he had any idea what he was unleashing, when he turned to attack Russia, thus biting off more than he and his army could possibly chew, and whether he was sane enough to know his name would live in infamy, not merely because of 6 +/- million Jews, but primarily because of 56 million deaths in Europe?
     
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    Freeman has a point, I agree with what he said about the Media in general, but especially about the drugs. I'm sorry but most of this stuff does not pass for anything normal. Either Long term abuse of drugs or recent is the most common cause I think. To be honest I cant even remember shooters names, but I do remember their faces,,all spooky man,,all nutty looking,,delusional.

    He's right,,guns last. Drugs and Media at the top of the list. Look at these crimes they all have one thing in common,,,,YOU GOT TO BE A NUT!
     
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    Of course it is and for good reason.

    We should not run and hide from these killers as this article says we should, we need to find out why this happens and you only do that by focusing on them. All good and well to shed a tear over the children but it doesn't help anything.

    Forgetting the name of the man responsible for millions of death would not be wise either, how else do you recognize signs and prevent future ones from spawning. Remembering Hitler directly led to our intervention in Bosnia and the genocide happening there which is a good thing.

    Stopping a future killer because we study this one would also be a good thing. These 20 children are gone, but there are others alive who still need our protection.
     
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    That's a simple solution. Start taking care of the mentally ill in our country.

    It absolutely does.
     
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    I agree, but we need to find out the traits of who the mentally ill are. To understand this, its key to study the individuals who pull off these horrendous acts. This guy may have acted normal up until the shooting so how do we detect these individuals in time to stop their deadly rampages?

    Not by dismissing them but by getting into their brains and informing the rest of the citizens.
     
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    I don't know of any who acted normally before a murder rampage. All of them displayed some kind of sign before hand. But yeah, I agree.
     
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    I know what you're saying. We're talking about the same Morgan Freeman that said all opposition to Obama is based in racism. People by into the image of actors in movies over their real selves; not understanding that in a movie, actors are scripted to look and sound a certain way. Freeman has been scripted repeatedly to be the wise sage who plays God, the president of the United States, and other distinguished roles. So it's hard for people to wrap their heads around the fact that in real life, he's a horse's ass.
     
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    I wasn't aware of Freeman saying that but I know Samuel L Jackson pulled that card. Either way, I agree that people get too caught up in celebrity images.
     
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    Evidently you have somehow formed the impression that America is overflowing with people who understand the cause of mental illness well enough to do the mentally ill any good.
     
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    I don't have that impression at all, actually.
     

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