Mueller invokes unusual ‘conspiracy to defraud government’ charge to ensnare more targets

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    "Covering"? Trump knows he did nothing wrong. This sham is becoming ever more clear, why would Trump want to take the focus off of its collapse? Right now we see it collapsing, if Trump starts firing folks, he will then be fighting impeachment and the implication will be that they were right on the "verge" of finally finding something. Rosenstein fixed Trump's wagon, but good.
    Sounds like you have given up on "Collusion!"?
     
  2. k995

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    Ok lets see:

    On May 17, 2017, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice (DOJ).
    Rod Rosenstein->republican appointment by trump another republican.

    Special_prosecutor : The appointment of a special prosecutor raises inherent separation of powers questions under the U.S. Constitution. Since the special prosecutor is a member of the executive branch, it has been argued that the special prosecutor is ultimately answerable to the president, and can therefore be fired by them.

    Aka by trump.

    So nope, lies . Unless you of course claim that Rosenstein & Trump are democrats/leftists .


    It shows the positions he once held, and again he was appointed and is under the authority of republicans. There isnt 1 democrat needed to start and contineu this investigation. There isnt 1 democrat that can do anything about this investigation.
     
  3. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

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    Thats an improvement, GOP already had meetings to wage war on obama before obama came into office.
     
  4. k995

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    I write "obama" you read "trump" strange.

    Your argument was that the mueller investigation (started by trump and his administration) is somehow the cover up for the obama administration.
    Well if thats the case, why did the trump administration start it in the first place?

    I think with all the evidence that we already know there is little doubt trump campaign and russians were in contact.

    This remains a politicial trial so until a mayority of republicans/democrats dont share that opinion there is little anyone can do.
     
  5. Zorro

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    It is.
    It was rigged by Obama holdover Comey, using Rosenstein to make the appointment. This is known.
    There is ZERO evidence that they engaged in a conspiracy to commit a crime. Those claims are based on the fabricated dossier that was planted by the Crooked Hillary campaign. And AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE BEEN SPIED ON AS A RESULT! Those are very serious crimes, committed in the course of "investigating" Trump for "crimes" for which there is not only no evidence, no one can even state what statute they think was violated.
     
  6. k995

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    So comey (the guy that most likely was the final push that trump needed to become president and who happens to be another republican up until 2016 who was also promoted several times by president bush) used trump to keep rosenstein (another republican and bush appointee) because he knew he was getting fired and he then could plant rosenstein deputy attorney general to continue the secret democrat mission?

    :applause::roflol:

    Oh I have heard a lot of stupid conspiracy cases but this one beats them all.
    Not only do you believe trump is a total and complete moron that can apparently be easly persuaded for anything, you also seem to think republicans are all secret democrats.

    No, plenty of people have already been charged with criminal offenses.
    Plenty of lies have already been uncovered done by the campaign team, the administration and the trump family .

    And they all happen to point in the direction of russia.
     
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  7. Zorro

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    Silly nothings that exist only in your fevered imagination.
     
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    Rosenstein was and is a dyed in the wool Democrat and Clinton supporter. He was the attorney in charge of the Uranium One investigation and song and danced that to oblivion His wife ran for congress financed by Hillary's bagman Gov McAuliffe That he was kept on by Trump means zilch. Trump kept a lot of deep state carryovers to show his get along ideas (and to show his lack of political acumen.
    Trump can fire Mueller any time he chooses for any reason he has. What's your question?
     
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    No reality you cant ignore: this investigation was started and is under control by republicans.

    Democrats have nothing to do with this, but in that fantasy world you created in your head they are the ones responsible , quite funny.
     
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    He's a republicans AND appointment by trump.

    Is trump also a democrat ?
     
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  11. icehole3

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    A little bit about Rosenstein, just for your record keeping. I got this from google.
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    Lisa H Barsoomian a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law she’s a protege of James Comey and Robert Muller

    Barsoomian with her boss R Craig Lawrence represented Bill Clinton in 1998 Lawrence also represented:

    Robert Muller three times
    James Comey five times
    Barack Obama 45 times
    Kathleen Sebelius 56 times
    Bill Clinton 40 times and
    Hillary Clinton 17 times between 1998 and 2017

    Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times

    You may be saying to yourself, okay who cares, who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman.

    Apparently someone does.

    Someone out there cares so much that they’ve purged all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals court dockets

    Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been purged of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.

    Historically this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative.

    Additionally Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community.

    And although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov.

    The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.

    This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.

    It’s a cover, so big deal right, I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter.

    Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?

    BECAUSE

    She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE


    That’s why.

    Both owe their careers as US attorneys to Muller, Obama, Bush, and the Clintons.
    Rod Rosenstein has no business involving himself in the Hillary Clinton-DNC funded Steel dossier, and the ongoing Russia investigation. Much less the selection of his mentor and his wife’s mentor Robert Muller as Special Counsel.
     
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    Even though it was launched under the Obama Administration? You are one smart enough to run like hell from this collapsing pile of crap, that's smart!
     
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    RodB said:
    Rosenstein was and is a dyed in the wool Democrat and Clinton supporter.
    I don't know why you think these are mutually exclusive. (clarification" "Democrat" in my statement modifies supporter.)
     
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    Wow! But Rosenstein is a republican, don't you know......
     
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    In what fantasy world do you live in?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017–present)

    Since May 2017, a Special Counsel investigation has been led by the United States Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, a former Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

    You actually think obama was president in may 2017?
     
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    So he's a democrat that was always listed as a republican?

    Trump was fooled into appointing him?

    Session (another republican) was alos fooled by him and excuses himself of the investigation knowing a democrat would supervise it?

    Oh btw: you do know Rosenstein has nothing to do with the actual investigation?

    Thats Mueller you know another republican that got widespread support from the GOP in this appointment?
     
  17. icehole3

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    you're using the Soros company line
     
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    Nope just reality, not a fantasy world were every republicans is suddenly a democrat.
     
  19. icehole3

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    You do realize there's a term called Rhino, is McCain a republican?
     
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    Trump is a rhino?

    Or is he too stupid to recognize one?
     
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    Mueller took over an investigation that had begun nearly a year earlier, Silly! But you are smart to run from this collapsing pile of crap!
     
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    OMG!

    His does it feel to have OUTED one of the Roswell Aliens?

    Does Alex Jones know about this?

    Surely this earth shattering info deserves around the clock, 9/11-style coverage.

    Then again, maybe NOBODY CARES?

    Lisa Barsoomian? :roflol:

    Are you serious?

    Thanks for the LAUGH.

    Carry on. :salute:
     
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    Nope Mueller started his own investigation. He's not cia or fbi he's special council thats an independent prosecutor.

    So you are still full of BS.

    THis was an investigation started by a republican, done by a republican and under the supervision of republicans.

    And republicans warn trump to not stop it :

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...mp-firing-mueller_us_5aaf02e6e4b0337adf850de6

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...g-special-counsel-massive-red-line/436153002/
     
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    :icon_shithappens: <- what this useless investigation has been this whole time. Nothing but a giant turd.
     
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    Don't you think this is odd considering Mueller is suppose to be a Republican?
     

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