Mueller is still missing one thing... A crime to investigate.

Trump was never alleged to have committed any crime and you know that since you can't name one. Is this what you want from now on? Every president will be investigated for every aspect of his life before becoming president to see if there is anything he can be prosecuted for because that's where this leads.

 

Bingo.

 

Trump has not been charged because the investigation has not completed. That is how our legal system functions.

1) Questionable activities are noted.
2) Investigation begins.
3) Evidence is gathered.
4) Evidence is presented.
5) Investigation completed and charges are filed.

Any competent investigator will not allow data to leak before #5 because it would compromise #3.


We are just now seeing the beginnings of #'s 4&5.

 

Let me know when she collects classified info on a non secure server and deletes subpoenaed documents.

 

I presume you mean Whitewater.

I won't argue that point without more knowledge about how it came about.

 

Hahaha..

Trump never asked Russia to hack her email. Knowing her email had already been hacked, Trump asked Russia to give us the subpoenaed emails Hillary deleted and bleachbitted.

 

No crime was ever alleged to charge him with, that's why nobody knows what the charges will be. Did Mueller find something somewhere in his past? Who knows but we do know there was no underlying crime specifically being investigated. In a real investigation when the prosecutor said he was wrapping up his investigation we would all say, well I guess we will soon know if there's enough evidence to charge this person with murder or robbery or some specified crime we knew of. In this Mueller witch hunt we are all saying, well I guess we will soon see if Mueller found a crime to charge Trump with committing. Kind of ass backwards.

 

What information ? The problem with these witch hunts is that it ends up being about "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" - What did Lewinsky have to do with "Whitewater" ? ZERO.

What does Stormy Daniels or tax evasion a decade ago have to do with "Russian Collusion" ? ... Zero.

 

We don't know that and you don't know that. Wait, who "colluded" with Fusion GPS and why is it "colluding"?

 

And how do you compare this to Ken Starr?

 

But he's the only one saying that. Congressional Republicans don't agree with you or him.

 

What you are witnessing is a coup by Mueller at the direction and in coordination with the DOJ. This started long before Trump actually won the election and took office.

Where the United States is headed during and after all of this is not good. But the DNC has been trying to corrupt and destroy our country for a long time and this investigation is something they will be very proud of.

 

Agree completely. "Show me the man and I will show you the crime".

 

I'm not disagreeing.

I wasn't paying much attention to politics at the time. I don't know many details.

I do know the Whitewater investigations were about known crimes, but I don't deny the politics of it.

Drudge uncovered Lewinsky. To my knowledge that had nothing to do with Whitewater.

Clinton was impeached when he perjured himself to stop an American citizen, his sexual harassment victim, from receiving a fair trial, and for using his office to smear his victim and cover up his acts. I don't remember that coming from Whitewater.

 

"John Kelly is expected to resign as White House chief of staff in the coming days. The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Trump is directing calls away from Kelly and toward Nick Ayers—Vice President Mike Pence's chief of staff—who has long been rumored as Kelly's eventual replacement."

That was written on Friday. On Saturday, Trump announced that Kelly was history.

That got me thinking. Why in the world would.Nick Ayers, an ambitious rising political star in the GOP, hook his star to a loser, a President who has committed two felonies according to N.Y. prosecutors, a President charged with collaboration with a hostile foreign government and obstruction of justice, and a President living on the edge awaiting the Mueller report that could cause his impeachment?

Well, I was right. Ayers turned Trump down. He not only is refusing Trump's offer, he plans on leaving the White House entirely. Ayers tweeted a thanks but no thanks message filled with the usual B.S.



Nick Ayers ✔ @nick_ayers


Thank you @realDonaldTrump, @VP, and my great colleagues for the honor to serve our Nation at The White House. I will be departing at the end of the year but will work with the #MAGA team to advance the cause. #Georgia

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1:28 PM - Dec 9, 2018

The job of chief staff is often thankless and exhausting even in a conventional administration. He or she will inherit a White House that is deeply threatened by a criminal investigation and allegations of abuse of power than at any time since the Nixon administration. And every week, the situation gets darker with the President under threat from formidable prosecutors on two fronts -- from Mueller who works under the supervision of the Justice Department and from the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York.

The new chief of staff will work for a President who has been accused, effectively by his own Justice Department, of directing and cooperating in the commission of a crime -- in payoffs to women who accused him of affairs, in contravention of campaign finance laws.

Who would want the job? That appears to be in serious question. It seems people are not exactly lining up for the chance to try to organize Trump's impulsive and unpredictable operation in the face of the myriad alleged "high crimes and misdemeanors." U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C. along with New York Yankees President Randy Levine have already kindly demurred.

Some of Trump's White House chief of staff contenders are signaling they're not interested, including White House Budget Director Mick Mulvaney and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is among the candidates who could serve as White House chief of staff, with one source calling him a "strong option" for the job. That could get a bit dicey. As a federal prosecutor, Christie sent Jared Kushner's father to jail.

There is never a dull moment in the Trump White House.

 

Yup.

The witch hunters seek monsters when they themselves are the horror.

 

It had nothing to do with White-water which is the point. Just like now we had a special prosecutor with massive powers - abusing those powers.

Clinton admitted an "inappropriate relationship" what more was necessary ? "how many inches of the cigar did you insert into Miss Lewinski's oval orifice" - give me a break. The perjury was fruit of the poisoned tree. The prosecution should never have been allowed to ask these questions.

No idea what "fair trial" you are talking about. Lewinski was forced to testify and had brought no charges against Clinton. Lewinski stated directly that it was a consensual relationship - case closed.

 

If you recall, before Clinton, CEOs around the country where forced to resign and pay damages after affairs with subordinates based on the idea that consent is not possible with a power differential of boss / subordinate. During 42 & 43's terms CEOs dropped like flies.

The MSMs designated women's groups demanded this until Clinton made Boinking Secretaries Great Again.

 

They're also missing their Russian conspirator.

They've got a russian conspiracy but who is the russian who conspired with the Trump team?

 

Lewinsky was known by a reporter that kept it secret until Drudge uncovered it.

I was thinking the special counsel had nothing to do with it. Is that not the case?

 

Mueller indicted a handful of Russians that he knows he won't have to prosecute, and refused to allow discovery on. All show.

 

It wasn't some court who demanded that these CEO's be fired - So it matters not. Also - there is a huge difference between the President and a CEO of a corporation - The whisper of a scandal (adultery) is no big deal to a CEO ... It is a whole different matter with the President.

You are also conflating a woman who claimed the affair was not consensual with those who did. The courts have not ruled that consent is not possible in all instances - as you purport.

 

You know what they say about indictments and ham sandwiches.

 

It is the case that Slick Willy's dangerous liaison with Monica's oval orifice had nothing to do with Whitewater = Fruit of the poisoned tree.

 

OK.

I still think it's appropriate for Congress to investigate a POTUS having interns being abused in this manner.

Monica chose to get rich instead of suing Clinton, but that was later.

Someone had to find out what happened.

And to my knowledge, this has nothing to do with the Special Counsel.