Mueller probing Russia contacts at Republican convention

Please post a link to this

 

Well, that particular Ambassador was known to be directing Russian intelligence operations in the United States.

And, it is very normal for members of the diplomatic corp to attend the party conventions, and normal for them to have contact with the candidates in public, and largely ceremonial meetings.

What is NOT normal is for foreign officials to be having closed door meetings with candidates during the campaigns. It is also not normal for the candidates and the campaigns to either try and hide these contacts or outright lie about it. Both of which the Trump campaign has repeatedly done.

 

I doubt taht Obama had any direct involvement in any of this at the time.

I'm sure that he was aware of Manafort's shady associations with the gangsters who acted as cutouts in the Kremlin campaign to prop up Yukoshenko.

I knew about it.

Most of Washington knew about it.

Which is why so many of us scratched our heads when Trump named him as campaign manager.

 

"A" link? It would require several to cover all the points. Search "Here's the Russia influence controversy ... ". That covers Obamas knowledge of Ukraine / Manafort. I've posted it many times, because FBI director Mueller was conducting covert surveillance on John McCains presidential campaign in 2008. https://nypost.com/2017/07/13/russian-lawyer-was-let-into-us-without-a-visa-by-obama-administration/ We know congress warned Obama in 2014 of subversive Russian activities, and he did nothing.

 

Why would all those Trump officials lie about the very fact that they had "contact" with Russian government officials if there was nothing to hide.

One might be explainable.

Two would be worrisome.

ALL of them however is a different animal altogether.

 

Obama stole a page right out of Muellers book of dirty tricks ... https://www.circa.com/story/2017/06...hat-john-mccain-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about Muellers FBI was conducting "oppo research" way back in '08. Comey carried on the tradition.

 

That was a pretty huge fail./

Here is what your link says

Natalia Veselnitskaya entered the US in late 2015 under “extraordinary circumstances,” The Hill reported.

The news site said she was granted a “special immigration parole” by the feds to help defend a client under criminal investigation.

At the time, Veselnitskaya was representing a Russian businessman, Denis Katsyv, who was being investigated by the Justice Department for alleged money laundering.

The US charged Katsyv’s company Prevezon Holdings as part of a $230 million tax fraud case, which was settled for $6 million in May.

The US Attorney’s Office in New York confirmed that it let Veselnitskaya into the country on a grant of immigration parole from October 2015 to early January 2016.



That says nothing about Obama knowing the details of what the US Attorney's Office was doing. It says nothing about Manafort or Ukraine

She had done something to make hersel persona non grata in the US but your link doesn't specify

She did however over stay that visa and then this person of dubious reputation from the Russian government met with Trump officials...

Oh...

 

I am not aware that "congress warned Obama in 2014" about anything.

Nor did anyone in the GOP leadership ever raise any public concern over Russian agitprop operations in the US.

Since you made that claim, you'll have to document it. Nor is there any evidence that Mueller survailled the McCain campaign (although I'm sure there is some obscure blog with a St Petersburg address making that claim).

But since you claim to have all these links, you can share them.

We have longer attention spans than the average Trumpster. And we read.

 

Not many leaks from Mueller's Team?
http://nordic.businessinsider.com/m...rump-may-indicate-criminal-enterprise-2018-3/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/09/mueller-russia-probe-leaks-media-narrative-448682
http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-lea...on-freedom-watch-sessions-wray-doj-fbi-755748

If it weren't for so called "leaks" from unnamed sources the left's MSM partners use to push their stories, I'm not sure how many of them could survive.

It's all about revenue and clicks, so these "sources" flow by the minute, whether corroborated, or not.

 

Like I said, I was sure there was a far right wing blog out there peddling that claim!

 

NO lied...as in "I never met with any Russians...governmental or nongovernmental"....when they had had NUMEROUS meetings with actual government officials and oligarchs

 

Then how come everyone in DC and the media is caught unawares every time Mueller drags a witness out of the airport or issues another indictement?

 

I would guess because they are called leaks, not investigation outlines.

I assume leaks have more value to revenue hungry media outlets.

 

Veselnitskaya isn't a Russian official. No indication she mentioned an entourage either. Contact with a Russian national living an teaching at a London university isn't espionage. Papadopoulos didn't deny contact, he fudged the dates. Flynn had been torpedoed by Obama as DNI. I suspect he just panicked when impropriety was suggested. Both cases, it's not the contact or content. Manafort has never hidden his Ukrainian lobbying, and why should he? Yanukovych was the president of Ukraine. Obama / Clinton of course were responsible for Yanukovych ouster, and Putin told them there would be consequences for meddling in Ukrainian politics, 2014. Obama knew about Russian subversion afterwards, congress told him.

 

Nope. They have the right to contact foreign governments, not encourage them to act in ways that are contrary to the policy goals of the sitting government, which is what Flynn did.

"The Logan Act makes it a crime for a United States citizen, “without authority” from the federal government, to communicate with foreign officials in order to “influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government” in a dispute with the United States or “to defeat the measures of the United States.” A conviction can result in a prison sentence of up to three years.

The statute applies squarely to Mr. Flynn. According to court filings, a “very senior member” of the Trump transition team told Mr. Flynn on or about Dec. 22, 2016, to contact officials from Russia and other foreign governments regarding a resolution pending before the United Nations Security Council that condemned Israeli settlement activity. Mr. Flynn then asked the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, to delay a vote on the resolution or use Russia’s veto to prevent it from passing.

The conversation between Mr. Flynn and Mr. Kislyak about the Security Council resolution clearly falls within the Logan Act’s scope. The Obama administration, frustrated with Israeli settlement activity, had chosen not to use its veto to block the measure. Mr. Flynn’s overture to Russia was thus an attempt to countermand the current administration’s decision regarding a highly sensitive foreign policy subject.

The following week, Mr. Flynn asked Mr. Kislyak not to “escalate the situation” in response to American sanctions against Russia in retaliation for meddling in the 2016 election. The effort to persuade Russia to respond moderately to American sanctions appears to be a less egregious Logan Act violation — because it was not an effort to “defeat” Obama administration policy — but it too falls within the act’s prohibition on trying to influence a foreign government in a dispute with the United States.

In response to the Flynn plea and questions about the Logan Act, President Trump’s lawyer, Ty Cobb, said that the statute doesn’t apply to transition team members. But that claim is surely false. A president-elect and his team may certainly introduce themselves to foreign leaders and conduct discussions with them about foreign policy. But there is a wide gap between those activities and trying to persuade a foreign power to thwart the sitting president’s foreign operations and initiatives. The former is not prohibited by the Logan Act; the latter is flatly banned."

 

Do you have a link to the specific charges on Papa? I haven't seen that.

Velskitiyakaka or whatever has long been known to be working for the Putin government. That is why she had visa problems in the first place.

Putin said there would be consequences?

Well he wasn't kidding was he?

Why are you supporting Putin so strongly?

 

No, we're talking about lying. There was no misunderstanding.

 

Of note

 

You were sure your left wing narrative was falling apart.

 

You're short about a dozen links to support the claims you've made.

 

Really?

Natalia V. Veselnitskaya arrived at a meeting at Trump Tower in June 2016 hoping to interest top Trump campaign officials in the contents of a memo she believed contained information damaging to the Democratic Party and, by extension, Hillary Clinton. The material was the fruit of her research as a private lawyer, she has repeatedly said, and any suggestion that she was acting at the Kremlin’s behest that day is anti-Russia “hysteria.”

But interviews and records show that in the months before the meeting, Ms. Veselnitskaya had discussed the allegations with one of Russia’s most powerful officials, the prosecutor general, Yuri Y. Chaika. And the memo she brought with her closely followed a document that Mr. Chaika’s office had given to an American congressman two months earlier, incorporating some paragraphs verbatim.

The coordination between the Trump Tower visitor and the Russian prosecutor general undercuts Ms. Veselnitskaya’s account that she was a purely independent actor when she sat down with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, and Paul J. Manafort, then the Trump campaign chairman.

It also suggests that emails from an intermediary to the younger Mr. Trump promising that Ms. Veselnitskaya would arrive with information from Russian prosecutors were rooted at least partly in fact — not mere “puffery,”as the president’s son later said.

Talking Points Brought to Trump Tower Meeting Were Shared With Kremlin

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-tower-veselnitskaya-russia.html

 

When is this crap going to stop? The Mueller dog and pony show was never about proving anything it's about keeping negative Trump news in the cycle 24/7. It is utter BS, pure propaganda not to mention inappropriate use of taxpayer money for political purposes. I think president Trump should ask for a second special counsel to investigate Mueller and Co. Either that or Trump should fire Mueller, pardon anyone swept up in this nonsense and get on with the business of running the country. At the end of the day politically it would just be another thing for the liberals to whine about no real harm to Trump and America would be better for it.

 

No, but then I challenged you to produce all those links you claim you have.

We're still waiting.

 

"Veselnitskaya isn't a Russian official."

Sure pal,

Do you really think you're fooling anyone with this?

 

Papa's indictment is in the public domain. I'm not supporting Putin, I'm criticizing Obama. He could have easily warned, and thus prevented the DNC hack. He could have easily warned Trump about Page, and Manafort having ties to Russians in disguise. Obama wanted Trump to bogged down by controversy. His inaction was calculated. http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/07/m...n-written-until-after-dnc-knew-it-was-hacked/