Muhammad Ali - "It's nature to want to be with your own (race)"

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Brewskier, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    As I've already stated, I have seen nothing to suggest that Ali's views have changed. You offered up anecdotal evidence about Ali changing his mind, but have presented nothing to back up your argument. The ball is in your court, now.

    Nice strawman.

    Answer the question. Not every black person who dealt with discrimination shared Ali's views on not mixing races. Explain that discrepancy .
     
  2. The Third Man

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    I really do not need to present anything to a guy who posts up 30 year old videos to try and prove what a guy feels today. Anybody would know that people change a lot in 30 years. Have you seen Ali on tv banging on about this in the last 30 years? No you have not.You can run along now I really have little time for racists like you.
     
  3. Brewskier

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    Yes, you do need to present something if you wish for your rebuttal to have any kind of credibility. As of now, it's just an unsubstantiated anecdote on your part that you are hoping to pass off as the self-evident truth. Sorry, debates don't work that way. Perhaps your talents would be better utilized on a non-political website where you don't need to worry about things like backing up your statements and you can rely on groundless opinion. American Idol fanclub, perhaps?
     
  4. Zook

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    Muhammad Ali can barely speak now. What do you expect him to say?

    I'm with Brewskier, you need to present evidence that Ali has changed his views. Especially if you're debating with racial realists like us. As racial realists we're the ones who live in black majority enviroments and see what goes on in black communities each and every day unlike you. Most black "people" think the same way as Ali.

    All you're doing is saying "I'm right cause I say I'm right and I don't need to prove anything to a bunch of evil racists!" Can't you see how weak of an argument that is? You have little time for racists because you lack the mental fortitude to break down our arguments. Like every empty-headed anti-racist out there, your rebuttal consists of "shut up, you're stupid."
     
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    Too bad it's proven that early humans bred with sub-species such as Neanderthals, Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, and Denisovans.

    Isn't Ali also part Irish?
     
  6. raymondo

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    Wiggle it whatever and whichever way you wish , it's still Racism of a quite poverty stricken standard .
    It's so scraping the barrel when you find one random person to parrot your views without at least parading one other at random who definitely does not . Me , for starters . He beats me in the ring but that's it . Nothing else , even though he is a sporting hero of mine .
     
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    So you admit that you are a racist. We knew that anyway but hanks for clarifying the situation. Also what Ali said nearly 40 years ago is hardly relevant today unless you are a rabid racist.
     
  8. Zook

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    Of course I'm a racist! What, do you think I'm ashamed of it? lol

    Racism is completely natural. You have to be brainwashed by the mainstream media with it's PC indoctrination messages to think like you do.

    "Racist" and "bigot" aren't dirty words to racially aware people who happen to be blessed with a brain. We realize they're made-up propaganda words you've been brainwashed into saying when you encounter someone who doesn't think like you do. [​IMG]
     
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    So hating someone just because they look different from you is natural? Check this vid out.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c11NbvmxtRo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL7A7C86A2B29EBA52]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c11NbvmxtRo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL7A7C86A2B29EBA52[/ame]
     
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    Who knows what Ali really meant. He was a loud mouth type of guy. His brain when it was functioning before the massive amounts of damage he recieved with "rope a dope" said all kinds of things for promotional and whatever ramblings he was thinking of at the time.

    Although the most sickening thing that happened to Ali was someone by his own 'race' a Mr Don King who attempted and did in part steal much of Ali's fortune.
     
  11. Zook

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    I didn't say I hate someone because they look different to me. But such simplistic thought from an anti-racist/anti-White person doesn't surprise me.

    I also didn't watch your childish video. Not one second of it. The title of it says it doesn't apply to people with triple digit IQs like myself. Grow up.
     
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    World getting a little small 4-yea ... :p
     
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    So you agree that human races exist?
     
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    Are they still forcibly kept in America?

    BTW, many white slaves were also forcibly brought to America, why do they only whine about African slaves?
     
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    What about Albert Einstein?

    Was he also an idiot?


     
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    So what?

    Can liberal censorship change reality?
     
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    No it is not completely natural at all. It comes about thru brainwashing and your obviously very sad social development.
     
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    I think that Ali was 30 years ago in a better mental and physical shape than he is today.
     
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    Somebody is a racist if he believe that people of his race have special rights, speak are "chosen" by their own god.

    Zionism is a form of racism. Zionists believe that their personal god gave them a special land, and that they have the right to expel other people from their homes.

    If somebody just wants to preserve his or her race (like it was the case with Muhammed Ali or Albert Einstein), then this is not racism, but preservationalism.

    I think that every race has the right to preserve their genes.

    If somebody wants to mix with other races - then it is his or her right.

    But if a government promotes or forces race mixing, then this is a violation of human rights.
     
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    Are you implying that it does?
     
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    No, he was a genius. That doesn't mean he wasn't also racist though his position appears more complex than Ali's shown in the video. Einstein was certainly a Zionist but he also spoke against racism in America.

    My statement that Ali was an idiot was less about his opinion but more about the aggressive and blinkered manner in which he presented it.
     
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    No, racism comes about through personal experience with another race. Something you clearly know nothing about.

    The goyim is very well trained these days...
     
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    Yes, of course!
     
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    That is a controversial opinion. He was probably a swindler, and his theories about black holes and other crazy stuff do not have any experimental confirmation.

    That means that Einstein was not only a swindler. He was a hypocrite, too. He favoured Jewish racism, but was against non-Jewish racism.


    He was not an idiot as he made his statement. But today his brain is probably damaged as badly, as his body.
     

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