My Opinion on House Impeaching Trump

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  1. hudson1955

    hudson1955 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is typical of Liberals to follow the teachings of Sap Alinsky. Never let a crisis to to waste he said. Wel! Trump never instituted protesters to break in to the building and those that did break in had been planning it for weeks, months; according to the FBI. But Pelosi used the Riot to impeach the President within days, with no proof at all and in my opinion after way Bing Trump speak to the crowd of people that didn't believe the Constitution was followed in the 2020 Election and that mailing out mass ballots changed the election process.

    I believe the "inrpdachmsnt" should be reversed for lack of proper procedure as the Constitution provides. Pelosi s intentions are obvious, keep him from running again and destroy his life and business. I have never respected her or Shumer. They are crooks who believe Alinsky, "the ends justify the means", regardless whether the means are legal or destroy people, their jobs and so on.

    I think the other Democrat Presidential Candidates backed off at the call of the END and big Democrat backers. And that they were promised jobs in the cabinet or Committee Chairmanships because they thought Biden had a better chance to beat Trump.

    I still can't believe voters would vote for a Candidate that refused to tell what his plans would be and used the Covid as an excuse not to properly campaign. The Dems knew what they were doing, the mass mail out ballots meant thousands of voters voted before even one Dabate. That's the sham.
     
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    Please don't forget that Trump sat there and watched the violence unfold, and did nothing for hours.

    1:11 pm, Trump finished his speech.

    2:10 pm, Police radio the Capitol has been breeched and lockdown ensues.

    2:24 pm, Trump tweets "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done ..." No mention of "peace".

    2:44 pm, rioter is shot entering a restricted area. Still no tweet from Trump except for the one criticizing Pence.

    4:17 pm, Trump finally tweets a video telling rioters they, "are very special" and still claiming the election was stolen, but
    for rioters to go home in peace.

    Trump watched, and people died. He never cared. He doesn't care now. He made no effort to stop the violence
    for two hours because he thought it might help him. It was only when he realized that it was a PR nightmare that
    he took action. End of story
     
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    Rioter bust into the capital at 1:00pm and Trump finished his speech at 1:12 pm. Trump never told anyone at anytime to break into the capital.
     
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    Don't forget that it is rumored he also had mis-matched socks, and likely put ketchup on his eggs for breakfast.
     
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    Great analogy, Rod. Has Trump so normalized chaos that you have lost any perspective on the magnitude of his unprecedented act of betrayal to the country?
     
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    What act might that be and when did it happen?
     
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    Convincing his supporters the election was stolen from him, without evidence, and that they needed to take action to install him as president. It began on election day.
     
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    @Daniel Light's post is the gist of it but I would also add that...

    Trump was calling Senators to tell them to help overturn the votes WHILE THE RIOTS WERE HAPPENING.

    He also refused to call the National Guard and Pence ended up calling them in.
     
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    No, I perceived the magnitude precisely: a nothing burger nit.
     
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    Try telling that to the people who were in fear for their lives from Trump's mob.

    “On January 6th, 2021, our workplace was attacked by a violent mob trying to stop the electoral college vote count. That mob was incited by ex-president Donald J. Trump and his political allies, some of whom we pass every day in the hallways at work,” a draft of the letter states.

    The letter goes on to describe how staffers “hid behind chairs and under desks or barricaded ourselves in offices” as the mob stormed the building.

    “Others watched on TV and frantically tried to reach bosses and colleagues as they fled for their lives,” the letter states.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...enators-to-convict-trump-in-impeachment-trial
     
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    Except the riot was not incited by Trump.
     
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    Impeachment aside, the scary thing is that the people responsible for this insurrection, the people trying to use violence to overturn an election when they had failed to convince people and courts were people who raised the Trump flag above the American flag. Those particular Trump supporters were not patriots; they were not defending the Constitution; they were going against the core values of this Republic and trying to overthrow it. That moment proved that, to some, the wishes of President Trump were more important than truth, fairness, and our form of government. They wrapped themselves in the American flag in order to make what it stood for irrelevant.
     
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    How sad that you think his supporters and those that voted for him could be convinced the election was stolen. They watched the way he was treated by Dems from the time he took office. Russia hoax was a hoax fake news was obvious if you kept up and followed up on what the media reported. Trump didn't convince peop!e to breach the Capitol, it was brewing in their minds for a long time. The Democrats changing election procedure using Covid as the reason was the last straw I said to my friends and family the day I heard about the mass ballot mailouts that Trump was toast because the Democrats planned for the mass mailings, extension of early voting, no signature verification and so on using Covid as an excuse. they saw the opportunity and took it.Just as they lie about Republican States trying to make voting harder for minorities Not true. They lie like a dog. In less than three months Biden and Rem Congress have put us on a terrible path. I dislike what they are doing more than anytime in my 65 years.
     
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    That is what one gets for living in the Conservadome. An unrealistic view of the world.
     
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    Yes those you call the job did no good for republicans but that was not Trump. I saw those militia groups on the news before.
    Republicans rarely stand up to the discrimination they face from the media and denocrats. Unfortunately their protest was hijacked by exfremists, just as peaceful protests by liberal democrats have been hijacked by black lives matter and, yes, Antifa.

    Seeing our Cqndidate, Trump repeatedly lied about and attacked by Democrats for four years, something you are most likely blind to, we that supported him made up our own mind on the Socialist and Communist approach the media and democrats were taking and needed no convincing by Trump.
     
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