My View: The Upswing of crime in my Area and WHO is to Blame

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  1. Trinnity

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    In the last month in my area....

    In the little townlet 3 miles away, every house that some old person lived in - who died - and sat vacant though owned by descendents has been robbed and vandalized for the copper wiring. EVERY ONE, including the little house my in-laws had. It's pretty much ruined.

    A teacher who lives in the townlet - her house got robbed last week too.

    My next door neighbors were robbed last Sunday while they were at Church. The deputy said 3 more homes on my road were robbed last week. One of the neighbors saw them and they took off, dropping the TV outta the trunk (ruined). Took their computer and jewelry, including the hubby's wedding ring.

    The deputy said this county and the one to the west of us is so rife with crime, almost all of which is Black, he is moving - leaving - moving away. He also said if you have a teen-aged daughter, she has an 80% chance in this county of being assaulted, robbed or raped. AND he said the law enforcement here is so inept, that criminals in the rest of the state come here to hide out and rob people while they are here. THIS was from a deputy sheriff in MY county.

    Two days ago in the town 8 miles from my house, a home invasion happened. It was 4 Black men. The home-owner who was also Black, shot one dead, held a second one at gunpoint (props to him), til the police came, and the other two fled.
    I even recognized the captured man's photo as one of the town riff-raff who just hangs around on main street of this small town. My hubby recognized him and my kids did too. He's in his forties or so.

    In the county to the southeast of here, my mail-lady who is Black, said 5 Black men home invaded her brother recently and robbed them in front of the kids with a gun to their daddy's head.

    In the county to the west of us where my hubby works, the day before yesterday, the used-stuff store (next door) got robbed - in the evening while closed. The perp was on viddy. A large Black man wearing a hoodie. Boy, that narrows it down.
    Good luck finding him.

    Yesterday, at the pawn shop next door on the other side of the street, 5 "big" Black men pulled up in a pick-up with a brand new riding mower they wanted to sell. It was obviously stolen. It still had the store wrapping on it...like the astuff that tells about all the features. No doubt they just TOOK it right out from in front of whatever store it came from. Prolly the Lowe's a few miles away. The pawn shop owner says people are bringing him so much (more than usual) stolen stuff, he's only buying guns and gold.

    The aforementioned deputy says this city - which is about 30 miles from us, - criminals come there from all over the state to commit crimes cuz the police there are inept, and frankly overwhelmed - that by the time they get the paper work processed, they're already out on bail.

    So between the county to the west and my county, and my county, it's just, well, we're basically on our own. The law can't - and doesn't - really do much about it.


    Who and what do I blame?

    The liberal agenda that negated personal responsibility. That ruined the school system. The "Great Society" that destroyed families.
    Welfare, gimmees, bennies, and dependency - for votes.

    Obama, Obama, Obama. FDR, Lyndon Johnson, Wilson, Carter.

    Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, Rangel, Teddy Kennedy.....that list is longer than Santa's.

    And finally, BOTH parties for instituting it or tolerating it.
    (*)(*)(*)(*) them all to Hell.


    <shakes head and walks away>
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    I was gonna say, "if they hadn't been trying to live in the toilet...". But.. well, never mind - sorry.
     
  3. SiliconMagician

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    While there is no doubt that the Democratic Party makes useful idiots out of minorities, I'm not sure that it is a policy problem Government can fix. If they ended "The Great Society" Programs, then certain minorities would probably grow even more violent.

    The problem is cultural. The problem is the pop culture glorification of "The Urban Thug" as a cultural icon among certain minority populations and a counter culture that glorifies violent means as a viable way to achieve instant gratification without the need for hard work.

    Government did not create that counter-culture, and it cannot abolish it.
     
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    people with good "bennies" dont rob anyone, they are not getting enough welfare and that with the bad economy is why there is more crime

    the solution for less crime would be to increase the welfare, it has nothing to do with culture that is a prejudice way to look at it

    also its ridiculous pointing out the race of the criminals but for the OP economic side the democrats are responsible for those social uplift measures that are being demonized not both parties i don't want to give republicans any credit for democratic work
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    The same liberal "values" ruined the prison/jail systems as well. In my county, the county jails routinely provide "Pay per View" TV for the major sporting events for prisoners. An ex Armored truck partner friend turned Sheriff Deputy worked the jails for 2 years before getting out to street patrol. He told me that when ever there was a championship boxing match, the creeps would do something minor to get arrested. They'd break someone's car window then call the police themselves and wait for the cops to arrive and arrest them so they watch the fight for free.
     
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    I do not understand why so many people refuse to see the true cost of crime that immigration and poverty has brought to the USA. When a hispanic immigrant displaces an African American from his job, the crime rate is sure to increase. Keep black men employed. It is far cheaper than the alternative...
     
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    People that go to prisons that employ chain gangs and hard labor in order to get out don't rob anymore either. OR model the prisons after Maricopa County Jails, complete with tents, cots, no TV or radio. That will educate them not to want to come back either.
     
  8. MisLed

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    more WELFARE!! you're joking i'm sure.
     
  9. liberalminority

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    they are just gaming the system that oppresses them, nothing wrong there.

    no they will make an officers job harder when its time for the arrest, they won't go so easily. also it causes a downward spiral any cop will tell you we put away one theres 2 to replace them soon their wont be enough cops for criminals. its best to fix their social conditions with welfare
     
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    It's your area. But you're going to blame "the liberal agenda" and then complain about other people lacking a sense of personal responsibility?

    I'm not the one that lives there. You are. Don't try to blame me. That's not being personally responsible.
     
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    Yourself. Work harder! That's the simple solutiuon put forward by you people all the time.

    JUST WORK HARDER!
     
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    I forgot about Trinities loss of "bennies" - perhaps this has a part in the equation of blame?
     
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    Trinity previously complained about the lack of corporate "bennies". She said she didn't have any money and that somehow liberals were to blame.

    So yes, it is a joke, but I'm not sure it was meant that way.
     
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    One of the few longer posts that I've read in full. my best advice to you is, wait for my speech, then listen to it, and instructions will be there. this is not a crazy man speaking.
     
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    DISSAGREE, and I will give you a good example. about 10 years ago I was on a camping trip, and kept feeding the bear who was hanging around the camp, thought eventually it will become my friend. i would catch a 2-3 pound pike and give it to the bear, several times over a day or so... the bear did not become friendlier, it just became more and more aggressive to the point where finally i had to jump in the boat, then watch it from the lake, as it threw one of my chairs into the fire and it burned... (this was couple years before a more serious bear accident where a woman was killed)

    No, the answer is not to feed the bears more, the answer is to deal with the crime more seriously. next question.
     
  16. Clint Torres

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    What other reason would be possible? Blame is easy ain't it.

    I blame Danisa cookies for making kids fat. Dainsih cookies made in Indonesia.
     
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    Does it really matter what causes this behavior other than an attitude of justification for preying on other people and taking their things. There are plenty of poor people who DO NOT STEAL, rob or home invade. Maybe the biggest problem is that these people don't get caught and if they do, excuses are made for their criminal behavior by people who THINK they are doing them a favor...Oh they're just impoverished, they grew up in the ghetto, it's their skin color. It's none of these. IT"S THEIR HEARTS!
     
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    How about a Herman Cain system, BLAME YOUR SELF! LOL!:twisted:

    I don’t know where this is for sure, but I have seen a similar situation all over the country, and it always boils down to 1 thing, Republicans cutting spending.

    Chances are your police force and law enforcement has had major cuts to their budgets along with programs designed to help train and employ young “black” men, along with the conservative value of free access to guns, all courtesy of your tax saving Republican politicians!

    On every branch of government, if you’re voting for a Republican, you are voting for your own demise.:bored:
     
  19. SiliconMagician

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    But this line of thinking goes along the lines of:

    "If we don't pay them enough money they will commit crimes."

    I don't like paying tribute to barbarians to be nice.
     
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    Isn't it amazing how cities that were once nice turn into crime infested (*)(*)(*)(*) holes when blacks move in and whites move out?

    I'd move, Trinnity. A lot of hold-out white people were eventually killed off in places like Detroit. There's no stopping it, in some places. Let the town rot, move to a better place.
     
  21. frodo

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    I fail to understand what anyone is complaining about with respect to crime, you are getting exactly what was predicted for you and continues to be predicted - it's exactly what you right wingers ordered for yourselves. But wait! There is more!

    There is a very simple understanding that is the key to this: a dissatisfied person can make more trouble for you then you can for them.

    To put that another way: Criminal behaviour can cost the community a huge amount of money at virtually no cost to the perpetrator.

    Now the normal response of conservatives is "Lets increase the cost of bad behaviour to the perpetrator to try to minimise its attraction". This means more police, more courts, more lawyers, more jail time and perhaps moire executions. Unfortunately this also costs a lot of money, so we haven't saved anything have we?

    The rational (liberal) response is to try and minimise the attraction by providing something more attractive to do - like working in a fulfilling and well paying job with good future expectations for the worker and his family.

    Do you understand that concept? We can give people crappy prospects and rely on the big stick to keep them in line, or we can keep them so busy bettering their existence that they have no time for, and see no value in, criminal activity.

    Guess which approach is cheaper in the long term?

    As I said, you get exactly what your ordered:

    1. Give poor people a crappy education compared to well off people by funding education primarily through property taxes, thus penalising schools in poor areas to the point where you have the absurd, corrupt, revolting and undemocratic crime of stealing education in America.

    http://www.care2.com/causes/homeless-mom-charged-stealing-school.html

    This sets the children of the poor up for a lifetime of poverty and low paying jobs.

    2. Amplify #1 by access and funding biases in secondary and tertiary education. Vilify public school teachers as well to further erode educational quality.

    The response to this is that the children of the well off have a much better chance at getting a well paying job. This is born out by statistics that show preferential treatment of rich kids is even worse in America than hidebound Britain.

    3. Treat workers like crap and maximise income inequality through taxation and labor laws.

    4. Corrupt the entire economy and destroy large numbers of jobs.

    5 Bias the legal system against the poor and the blacks and Hispanics.

    6. Administer a rotten welfare and health system designed to penalise the poor even further.

    7. Maximise the temptation of crime through stupidities like the war on drugs.


    ...And then you sit back and wonder why badly educated, ignorant, unemployable Blacks turn to crime to try to make ends meet?

    The miracle is that more of them haven't done so sooner.

    To put that another way, why do you think that Developed countries spend so much on kindergarten and primary education for ALL their children?
     
  22. Brewskier

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    Ah, the bigotry of low expectations. There are a lot of poor white folk across the country who do not even come close to the violent crime statistics that blacks generate. Poverty is not the root of the issue. A culture that glorifies gang membership and a thug lifestyle is.
     
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    that's really a good idea. but Trinnity is going to take a loss more than likely on her property. right? And in time, these democratically paid off thieves and barbarians will be finding their way to our homes to do the same thing over again. it's never ending. Once they kill off decent working people, they'll turn on themselves, just as muslims do.


    tribute is not the answer. I don't know if jails are big enough because democrats keep installing activist judges who turn these people loose on an unsuspecting public. Maybe it's education..and not college education either because then these fools become race baiting nation of islam violence encouraging semi politicians. Get God back into schools, throw out democrats. They are unfit to lead anyone. STop activist teachers from teaching anti americanism and make them teach the three r's. It's gonna take decades but i think it's possible to turn this country around still. Not in four years but NOW. fat chance of this happening.
     
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    Lets see, a few black guys rob a few white guys and your pissed. Meanwhile, a few white guys destroyed the economy of the world, bought congress and live in dripping luxury unassailable by the law and you blame a few black guys for what? And now you want to elect who? The guys who support the real thieves and go to the club every day and laugh at the likes of you and how they completely have you subservient.
     
  25. Trinnity

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    Do you have any idea that what you just wrote is laughable?
    You're advocating a policy of appeasement. Worse than that. Paying thugs to NOT terrorize the rest of us.
     

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