Myanmar ethnic cleansing half a million Muslim.. why is everybody quiet ??

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so your saying Americans should have less children so less die in a war? no clue what your saying?

    should we build smaller building so less die in a 911 type attack too?
     
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    Forget it. If you don't understand what I'm saying by now, you never will.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was trying.. lol
     
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    @notme will explain you that because Bush/chenney caused an irresponsible war, you can murder a belgian civilian because a lot of people die in the middle east. By the way, he will never consider the responsibility of the muslims themselves who are fighting since the death of Muhammed between shia and sunni muslims and if Bush is an irresponsible, a criminal and an idiot, he is not responsible for the war between shia and sunni muslims. Muslims who go kill other muslims because they're not in the right Islam are responsible of their own acts.

    I think that muslims should live in their muslim countries (their is already plenty of it) where they can do their muslim things like killing apostates and beating their wives, and non muslims in non muslim countries.

    You can as much let a muslim live in a non muslim country than a starven wolf live among sheeps. You just have to open the quran to know the aim of Islam, and so the aim of all faithfull Islam : everybody should be either muslim or dead.
     
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  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree, many good Muslims out there, like I said the Jewish text talk about stoning non-believes and such, they ignore that nonsense, most Muslims do too

    Muslim fanatics are the issue, and right now Muslims have to dang many of them
     
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  6. VotreAltesse

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    Muslim fanatics are just doing what the quran say them to do and many muslims "moderate" have a lot of sympathies to the fanatics. Most muslims are pacifist like most german were pacifists in 33.
     
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    they are still fanatics, I woudl say the same about a Jew stoning a non-Jew because his texts said too, non-fanatics do not do stuff like that
     
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    Judes don't have exactly the same relationship with their sacred texts than muslims. Anyway, I don't care of jews because they don't kill anybody in Europe, I'm just saying that muslims "fanatics" are just applying Islam like Muhammed did, they apply the regular Islam. Pacifist muslims are more the exception than something else. For instance 80 % of viewers of Al Jazeera, one of the biggest channel of the arab world said they supported ISIS.

    Pacifist islam is a myth.
     
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    Gee, I wonder why that is...

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    Do you have any firm and credible evidence that children were raped? Real evidence. No one is interested in propaganda. As far as I know, the Burmese people wouldn't touch a Rohingya with a bargepole.
     
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    Fanaticism in religion is an interesting concept in that it is easily considered adherence to scripture and dismissed by followers as devotion. For this and other reasons many Atheists or Theists of another faith find "Religion" to be a detriment to peaceful coexistence. Basically Christians create death for Muslims and so do Muslims. Muslims create death for Christians and pretty much everyone who does not believe exactly as they want them to. Do you note the thread this cloth is made from?

    Religion is the death dealer.
     
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    I like to read a source on that, because them japanese killed millions of Chinese civilians more than Jews dying in the holocaust.

    So where is your proof?

    That is completely unrelated. So the Rohingya did not do their fair share. It's as good as totally one sided from the Bhuddist.

    So you admit that you support war crimes to be committed world wide, and Muslims to be persecuted.
    Excellent.

    You are but I'm not. That I state that Christians and Jews committed massacres all over the middle east is just a historic fact. The way those Christians and Jews massacre just dwarfs what Muslims do the other way around. That's what it is, when they do things like go for a regime change in an other country, for more than 10 years straight.
     
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    No no... lets first go back to your claim that their religion expects them to blow themselves up.
    I've not witnessed this that even half a % of their population does this.
    So its obvious you're just ranting islamophobic nonsense.

    I think there is an extremely wide consensus that ISIL does not represent what Muslims stand for.
    While there it's a fact that nazi marching muslim haters are around.
     
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    He is also responsible.
    Because the occupying power is totally responsible for public safety.
    Such is the law.
     
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    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...s-found-myanmar-army/articleshow/60817933.cms

    No, I don't stand for war crimes. Muslim should be expelled, not killed. The murder is the nature of Islam.

    BTW ISIL represent what Islam and muslims stand for. Everybody who open a quran know it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide

    So yes, muslims killed millions of non muslims, and they continue to do it in middle east. Killing non muslims is asked in the quran :
    Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
    Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
    Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". T
    Quran (8:17) And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
    Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"
    Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

    A muslim is someone who believe in the quran. Someone who believe in the quran can only plan murder and genocide of non muslims.
     
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    Firstly...I made no such claim
    Secondly.....I am well aware of the minimal percentage that perpetrate terrorism.
    Finally...If there were a loud outcry from "Moderate Muslims" against this instead of an occasional YouTube video or a Cleric on the news perhaps something would change, but this has NOT been forthcoming.

    You will now claim media bias simply does not show this in western societies and I will ask you where it can be found in the Arab world...because it sure isn't on Al Jezera.
     
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    You know my opinion, we should never intervene in muslim territories, even if a dictator kill his population or commit genocide, because without dictator, muslim territories end in chaos and start to wish to ivnade other territories. Iraq learned us that.
     
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    Is this equal to the holocaust and the far bigger genocide of Chinese?
    You got to be kidding me.

    Expelling is a war crime....
    So you do support war criminal thugs.
    The fact that something like 0,05% of the followers of Islam do it, proves you're wrong.

    It's totally the opposite.

    Again. It has nothing to do with the Rohingya and your claim they did their fair share.

    First of all, you're quoting from a known muslim hate site.
    Secondly.... this is about muslims have a right to protect themselves according to the Quran.
    Something wrong with that?
     
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    99% of the war against ISIS is done by Muslims. How on earth did you miss that one?
     
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    I also know your opinion of whitewashing the responsibilities of the US as occupying power.
    As occupying power you simply are responsible for public safety.
    And the US utterly and utterly failed on it. The US just let it happen, with their amateuristic army.
     
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    I did not miss it and in fact stated as much in the parts of my commentary you decided to eliminate from your quoted content. That the complexity involved is beyond you ability to comprehend does not nullify this.
     
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    So it's a fine genocide ? Thank you. Half of the holocaust, it's already a lot. The half of the hindu population of bangladesh who was slaughtered.

    Yes and you support terrorism. You know what is morally bad too ? Make enter terrorist in a country then let them slaughter people.

    Majority of follower of islam support the murder of non muslims.

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    Al Jazeera, the biggest channel of the muslim world.

    By the way it have something to do with the rohingyas, rohingyas speak the same language and have the same religion who ask to kill non muslims.

    No the quran say to fight until the religion is all for Allah, not to fight for defend you. Quran says to kill everybody non muslims, give me other quotes to prove you point.

    Okay, I will quote all of them of the website quran.com made by muslims :
    Quran 2:91 : And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
    Quran 2:216 Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.
    Quran 3:151 We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.
    Quran (8:17) And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
    Quran (8:39) And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah .
    Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."
    What a difference now I quote from a muslim loving website ! By the way I hate islam, because Islam and muslims seek to kill all non muslims.





     
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    99 % of the fight are done by SHIA muslims when ISIS are SUNNI muslims.
     
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    I don't whitewash USA, I'm just saying that if Bush should be judged, he is not responsible for the war between sunni muslims and shia muslims. It's not bush who wrotte the quran, the main source of terrorism in the world.
     
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    Well you wanted a sign how much they are against it.... and just exceptionally dumbly erase their war against it as totally valid argument.
     

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