Mystery leaks (sabotage) hit Russian (Nordstream 1 and 2) undersea gas pipelines to Europe

You're only as good as your lame comments. That's all you'll ever amount to oomy.

 

Absurd conspiracy theory, this was an insane act by a president but Putin not Biden.

 

Ah, a graduate of the world renowned Infowars School of Material and Structural Engineering...

 

No, just someone who knows what & how to research. As opposed to you still trying to work out how to use a fly (how to zip up/down).

 

It makes a hell of a lot more sense than Russia blowing up their own pipelines when they were slowly shutting them off. Now they have lost the leverage they had over Germany. Explain how that makes more sense?

 

Yeltsin agreed to uniting Germany and in return NATO promised not to move one inch closer to Russia. Then in 1999 NATO attacked Yugoslavia, a sovereign country with no ties to NATO. NATO commander General Wesley Clark would have started WW3 if his second in command hadn't refused Clark's order to fire on Russian troops who landed at an airport inside Yugoslavia. The Russians wanted a free country and didn't care about the rebuilding the Soviet Union.

 

Russians don't see themselves as the Soviet Union anymore. Your analogy is outdated.

 

Past presidents also confronted Germany as well but they did it more diplomatically, quietly keeping the problem under the radar so most people didn't know Germany was resisting the US's efforts to pull Germany back into supporting NATO 100% to include paying their fair share and upgrading their old military hardware. It was Trump who was very focal and non-diplomatic that worried the deep state in the US due to the coverage it was getting. Without Germany being fully committed NATO and therefore NATO was on the verge of collapsing taking America's control over Germany/Europe away.

 

Fascinating. Thanks for opening my eyes to this.

 

Correction: Fully committed to the US and therefore NATO...

 

Your conclusion is fundamentally false because Japan unlike Ukraine was the aggressor. You need to read the history of Japanese expansionism. Learn about Japan’s wars and invasions of Korea , Manchuria, China etc. Then read about Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor. Ukraine did not invade or attack Russia nor did it invade any of its neighbors. So if you now tell me that you know the history of Japan’s wars of expansion then your post is a travesty and insult to those of us who are capable of rational honest thinking. We know the truth. You may know the truth or you may purposely be ignoring facts and truth in your constant repetition of Kremlin propaganda.

 

Russia hasn't nuked anyone yet.

 

The answer is when DOESN'T Russia go all over the world causing chaos with misinformation.

 

well I guess the modus at the moment is that nothing really makes much sense when it comes to Putin and the inner-circle...as I said earlier your theory is as good as any other at the moment its just that I don't think its right. I'm just coming from a practical perspective; what's the point of the US putting holes in a now non-operational pipeline surely if what you are proposing were right it would have had a more practical impact when Europe was actually getting gas from the Russians? I'm certain Russia did blow it up. Simple as that. It absolutely fits in with what they do in terms of using civilian infrastructure as tactical tools in furtherance of strategic military aims. The Russian's couldn't give a flying crap about the pipeline it's the signalling involved that's important - they're just continuing their application of the destruction of civilian infrastructure to send messages......something alone the lines of "you've sanctioned us, you've supported Ukraine, okay so we'll cut you off once and for all and you can all go and freeze this winter and think about what you've done to us you European wankers!"

 

So then keep it that way. Too bad that Russia has committed genocide virtually all of its history. That is an undisputed historical fact.

 

You are the one who failed Jack - failed to understand that the free press isn't free .. and so you run around making defacto claims "No false flag" as if the press was indeed fair and free.. because that's how it works in fantasy land - where necessary illusion bubbles never pop - and life is beautiful all the time

but look - you can believe what you like .. just don't be projecting your failure to distinguish propaganda from reality onto others - and prove/support your claim the guilty parties were identified accurately.. This is not kindergarten class - where naked claims suffice as proof of claim .. are we supposed to believe you because you said it came from Forbes ? - or other US mainstream media - and the Journalist didn't get fired LOL ..

Have fun Jack .. gonna show us your understanding of the Press now

 

We have all learned from how they faked the SANDY HOOK account that our government isn't to be trusted.
Alex Jones brought them all undone. My uncle, to his last breath, lived in bitterness of his govt creating Sandy Hook.
And the same goes for the moon landing, death of Diana and Munroe, Syria, Vietnam, 911, even Ukraine this gas explosion - all just Sandy Hooks.

 

The super powers are untouchable in courts.

 

The ideology predates the soviet union. Not sure if you are aware of the entire history over there.

 

A lie does not become less false with repetition.

 

Your attempted deflection fails.

 

Yawn. Just more propaganda spew.

 

As I said, a free press is not something you can readily understand.

 

I'm confident it was eco-terrorists, here's why.

First, something few people have discussed is the number of attack sites. A government actor, having high confidence that their bombs would detonate, would only hit one or two sites because fewer attack sites reduces the risk of detection. A less experienced actor, fearing that their attack might fail, would hit multiple sites because this increases their chances of success.

Second, as many people have mentioned, Russia hitting their own pipeline (which they had already turned off) within enemy territory is unlikely. But referring to the number of attack sites again, if they did do it, they probably wouldn't hit multiple sites within enemy territory because that makes it far more likely they would be discovered. It's also never been their MO (in the cold war) to directly attack the west.

Third, it probably wasn't a western government (as some have argued) because if they wanted to blame it on Russia, they would do it somewhere that only Russia can hit, not in locations that are within range of western civilians with scuba diving licenses. It just doesn't strengthen the case for blaming Russia to do it this way, if they were going to false flag they would hit an area that Russians can hit but that non-state actors would have difficulty in reaching.