Mystery leaks (sabotage) hit Russian (Nordstream 1 and 2) undersea gas pipelines to Europe

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  1. UntilNextTime

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    The US champ, the US. They spin purvey belts of it.
     
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    No, he didn't. 2014 is calling....Poroshenko is on the line
     
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    The only thing that happened in 2014 was that the Ukrainian people threw off the yoke of a Russian puppet.
     
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    What would he have to gain from a claim of US responsibility? If HE did it, he wont have any evidence the US did it.
     
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    after the war they were a shell of a natio, no super power. thats why they were dragged through the courts. america has never been dragged through the courts for the years of state terrorism of THEIR OWN ppl during the slavery days, nor for their two nuclear attacks because they have remained a super power since slavery ended.
     
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    the miltary coup by ukraine/nato that purged a pro russian elected govt was the beginning if im not mistaken.
     
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    And who do you think 'did' the gas attack? And what is your evidence and motive?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which one .. and why do you want to know who I think did it .. has nothing to do with the point .. blah blah gibberish land .. question without point
     
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    I have serious doubts that the US sabotaged the Nord Stream system. Actually I wouldn't be shocked to discover that it wasn't sabotage, but caused by engineering or material flaws.

    That said, this is interesting.

    https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/88062


    If the perpetrator was Russia, the signaling value toward the West—which would certainly know Russia is behind the explosions—may be a threat to the rest of the marine energy infrastructure.
     
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    The area where the pipe was hit is extremely deep and would need the kind of technology only governments possess. What would eco-terrorists gain by putting to nuclear powers on the brink of nuclear war? NATO/US was in the area just days before the explosions so how would someone carry out such an operation right under the nose of NATO/US?
     
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    The rest of the world?!
     
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    If Russia blew up their own pipeline which I do not believe why would they want to repair it? You call them leaks but no one knows the extent of damage the 4 explosions caused.
     
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    Citing yourself. Ok.
     
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    Experts have stated it's too deep for divers. Only mechanical means could have placed those explosives. The type of technology only governments possess.
     
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    Those pipes are corroded from sea water...they're done afaic.
     
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    Who said it was not widely reported .. Why are you pretending I said it wasn't. Your task .. was to produce some of that reporting which supports your claim.

    "Time for you to figure out" what an argument is .. you running around crying NO NO NO .. and making nonsense false accusations .. doesn't cut it in the adult room.

    Where is the reporting on the "False Flag" incidents you promised -- having trouble figuring out what the 3 incidents I gave you are .. Douma for example is the name of the town gassed.. Khan - Gouta .. same thing .. Reporting -- US "Mainstream" source .. you claimed "Forbes/ Wapo" but others will suffice to further your education in the ways of State Sponsored Propaganda .. :banana::cheerleader:
     
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    Listen dude, it was 4 separate detonations, on three separate pipelines....almost at the same time. That measured 2.3-2.5 on the Richter scale.

    In other words, it wasn't any ****ing design flaw.

    The U.S. did it and I say that as a U.S. citizen. I call a spade a spade, and the U.S. committed a serious terrorist attack. End of story.
     
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    And they burned a bunch of protestors alive; burned a lot more in the Donbass when they bombed them with white phosphorus, and they shot dead a slew of others heading back to Crimea from Kiev.

    People tend to vote to join the country they were from when :icon_shithappens: like that happens.
     
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    You're the one who claimed a false flag. I said the guilty parties were accurately identified.
    And btw, Russia's defeat in Ukraine is at hand.
     
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    Yawn. That's just another in your series of falsehoods. The defeat of Russia in Ukraine is at hand.
     
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    People didn't vote to join Russia. The orcs don't even control anywhere close to the entirety of the territories they're trying to claim, so they can't hold an honest referendum involving anywhere near a majority of the residents.
     
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    An interesting set of facts is in the video below.

    *NATO controls the Baltic Sea, the sea in which Nord Streams 1 & 2 are located.
    *The US 6th Fleet was in the Baltic Sea and in the area and at the time of the pipeline destruction
    *Ukraine is NATOS's puppet country.
    *NATO is the US's puppet
    *The US doesn't care about NATO, EU or Ukraine.
    *NATO want this conflict to go on forever, as does the US.
    *Why the destruction of the pipelines? So the EU will have to rely on the US for that energy.

    Have fun with one peeps.

     
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    Despite some internal inconsistencies, this is at least an elaborated propaganda concept. It needs to be, because it's a last gasp "Hail Mary" to try to mitigate the consequences of Russia's impending battlefield defeat.
    Fact is that Ukraine and NATO are winning; they have no need to do anything but what they've been doing.
     
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    Not a bad analogy. Putin could, indeed, be thinking this way. e'll have to wait and see.
     

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