NASA admits that climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit, NOT otherwise!

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08...NQPDOOKbxt2_dIvWNHLU9889pCqDp8mHYSXF1Kq9P0cqk

    Yep, the climate has always changed.

    But the current hysteria about climate is due to POLITICAL science and not Natural Science.

    The earth naturally releases more Methane in 24 hours than the entire cow herd on the planet releases in 16 months.

    Bottom Line:

    "But rather than embrace this truth, today’s climate “scientists,” joined by leftist politicians and a complicit mainstream media, insist that not using reusable grocery bags at the supermarket and not having an electric vehicle are destroying the planet so quickly that we absolutely must implement global climate taxes as the solution."
     
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    We only have 12 years left anyways, so oh well.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought it was 11 now...
     
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    NASA cannot "admit" anything. NASA can issue an opinion which it did.
    So many of us have said that something like the tilt of the axis can be a contributor to global warming.
     
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    I call BS ! NASA does use words such as "admits" when stating scientific fact or opinion. That source " aturalnews.com" is at best suspect.
     
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    Warning! The so called source listed in the OP is a "conspiracy" website and FAKE NEWS site as noted in link below.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News
     
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    Sorry folks. Move along nothing to see here I debunked thus conspiracy theory.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Evidently, you believe the 11 year BS.........
     
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    Unless you're a highly educated researcher in climate and can understand all the data in a non partisan way, anyone who is hysterical about global warming is just blindly believing what other people, many of them uneducated in climate, are telling them to believe.

    I'll admit, I've seen people change their core beliefs 108 degrees simply because they were told to, the illegal alien crisis would be a perfect example.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm now waiting for the first air head Leftist to give themselves to become a Sunday dinner in light of the new, "Cannibalism," mantra.
     
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    Yep, like a fanatical religious cult. Climate doomsdayers are akin to a different denomination of the greater religion of progressivism.
     
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    https://www.livescience.com/7926-10-failed-doomsday-predictions.html

    These are just in the last 100 years and don't include the -thousands- of such predictions throughout the Middle Ages and after.

    But this time is of course different.
     
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    The Fraud is your thinking and the OP. NASA did not admittto what the original thread postvstated.
    Do not know what this 11 thing is. So state it here and I will tell you if I believed it or not.
     
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    I would be worried about those who did a 180* shift. That is 72* worse. LOL
     
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    Conspiracy sites are equivalent to the bible for climate deniers.
     
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    Sad but true!
     
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    Before you call someone a fraud go and read the title of your OP thread.
    You got the title from the conspiracy website so that part is legal. But the message of the website that you ased your OP on does not say anything about ASA admitting any such thing that you said. You should not call other members a fraud.
    That is like calling someone a liar. Not cool!
     
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    Yet another poster wanders into a website with no legitimacy and thinks they have discovered the holy grail that proves all the world's climate scientists are wrong and that they through the wonders of the internet are on to something that no one else could have figured out.

    First of all, NASA made no such admission and the website is misrepresenting their position and we have known about Milankovich cycles since the 1920's. Unfortunately for the denierati, the three cycles of obliquity, precession and eccentricity have all been in an overall cooling trend for thousands of years and will continue to be for thousands more years. In fact, Milankovich cycles may one day reverse the greenhouse effect we are going through now but this will happen about 40,000 years from now so it won't do us much good.

    "The natural cycle is range bound and well understood, largely constrained by the Milankovitch cycles. Since the beginning of the industrial age, humankind has caused such a dramatic departure from the natural cycle, that it is hard to imagine anyone thinking that we are still in the natural cycle."

    Natural vs. Modern Forcing
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    Natural vs. Modern Climate Path
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    http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environment/global-warming/milankovitch-cycles

    https://www.nature.com/scitable/kno...imatic-change-and-hominin-evolution-68244581/

    So, it is not Milankovich cycles. It is not solar irradiance which has been closing in on a Maunder Min for sunspot activity for at least the last decade or two so it is not the sun.

    It is not cosmic radiation and it it is not alien heat fields......probably.

    So, any other guesses what it is?
     
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    By climate doomsayers, you mean the vast majority of the world's climate scientists................those religious progressivists?
     
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    Honest question, where did it come from that we only have 12 years left before we all die?
    I’ve heard it several times but cannot track down a source.

    I know the UN said that we have “12 years left to significantly reduce global carbon emissions if we are to have more than a 50 percent chance of keeping global warming below 1.5°C (about 2.7°F)”.

    If we fail it will not be fatal (for most), just uncomfortable.
     
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    But it will be very expensive. Whether we do something or nothing, it will cost us all in the end.
     
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    There is no links being made to NASA on that site. So you know.
    For all we know, it's just fake news ranting.
     
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    Reading comprehension....

     
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    It's an AOC thing... that she later tried walking back, kinda.
     

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