'Nazi Grandma' sent to jail again for Holocaust denial

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  1. unbiased institute

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    Fair enough
    I agree. She was aware of the law and of the moral objections.
    So off she goes.
     
  2. ArmySoldier

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    Couldn't agree more
     
  3. Caligula

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    No apostrophe-s if you want to indicate the plural in English, please.

    One cat.
    Two cats
    (no apostrophe).
    One dog.
    Two dogs
    (no apostrophe).
    One Nazi.
    Two Nazis
    (no apostrophe).


    The apostrophe-s construction expresses possession.

    Father's car is ugly.
    Let's say he has two or more of them.
    Father's cars are ugly.
    First -s indicates possession, therefore we use an apostrophe-s. The second -s is simply the plural (two or more cars), thus no apostrophe.


    Sorry for this little exkursion, please continue.
     
  4. unbiased institute

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    Haha
    And you have the nerve to lecture me.
     
  5. Caligula

    Caligula Well-Known Member

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    Why not? :smile:

    Wrong apostrophe is wrong apostrophe.
    All in good humour (of course).
     
  6. unbiased institute

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    Hm.... in good humour, why not? As its the festive season.
     
  7. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are a German Citizen, would you or would you not face prosecution if you were to concur with views similar to those of Frau Haverbeck on this Forum?

    In other words, are Germans free to openly express their views concerning the Holocaust®* on forums such as this one?

    Thanks


    * I use the "®" symbol simply to distinguish the European Holocaust® of the early 1940s from the many other claimed Holocausts[1]


    [1] “Holocaust & 6,000,000 Jews references from 1869 - 1945”

    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth....jews-references-from.html?zx=c5a4b210806dd26a


    “Many, many, many appearances of the 6,000,000 figure of Jews
    in the New York Times long, long before the end of World War Two


    EXCERPT
    “1869 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in the world, half in Europe NYT

    1889 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in the world, 2/3rds in Russia NYT

    1891 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia NYT

    1896 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia NYT

    1900 New York Times: 6,000,000 living arguments in favour of Zionism NYT

    1902 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia NYT

    1904 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia, Zionism & East Africa NYT


    1905 New York Times: 6,000,000 Russian Jews and Zionism NYT

    1905 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews expelled from Russia between 1890-1902 NYT

    1906 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews will be massacred in Russia NYT

    1907 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews can't emigrate NYT

    1910 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia NYT

    1910 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia in a sad plight NYT

    1911 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia are persecuted NYT

    1911 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia have no rights at all NYT

    1911 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia to be massacred NYT

    1911 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews in Russia in real peril NYT


    1914 New York Times: 6,000,000 Jews within warzone NYT........"

    CONTINUED
     
  8. Mandelus

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    Yes, it will be a problem if I say the same BS of lies as this lady in public ... if I will be in problem when doing here on an US forum, no idea ... maybe, maybe not!
    At least is nothing to deny in matter of Holocaust and it is backed by a bunch of facts ... and honestly, I'm tired to fight any of the deniers. At least the same as with these trolls who want people make to believe that 9/11 was conspiracy or that the US was never on the moon etc. ... but much more backed by facts as 9/11 or the moon landing.


    I know, you in the USA have this so called freedom of speech which does allow such thing, but in our freedom of speech it is excluded, because we clearly excluded some things which are by law a crime!
    I understand that this is for several US people not understandable and OK, but for me is in reverse your total freedom of speech not understandable and OK.
     
  9. Maccabee

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    You messed up the quote feature and I'm not entirely sure were to start. So what I'll do is post a link debunking the common myths about the holocaust conspiracy theory.

    https://debunkingdenialism.com/2011/12/07/my-encounter-with-a-holocaust-denier/#more-1607
     
  10. Grau

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    Yes, I'm guilty of messing up the quote feature but the facts I related are irrefutable.

    Do you really believe that the Germans could & would have diverted the enormous amount of manpower, logistics & resources from a 3 Front War to shuttle, house, treat, & feed millions of people just to exterminate them in the costliest way possible?

    If there is any outlandish "Conspiracy theory" it is that the Germans could or would divert so much from their war desperate effort.

    Yes, I've seen that link of canned distortions & lies of omission that evades addressing the hard facts that debunk Holocaustian dogma dozens of times.

    In reality, the Wehrmacht & Waffen SS was the most Ethnically diverse Military Organization in modern history[1] that even included 150,000 Jews[2].
    Germany's National Socialists did not call themselves "Nazis" and only comprised 4% - 12% of Germany's population. Their plan was to slowly deport Jews who were hostile to Germany but allow Jewish WW 1 Veterans & their families to stay.

    If Germany's National Socialists wanted to exterminate all Jews, why were some of the Wehrmacht's & Waffen SS top officers Jewish?

    I lived, worked & studied in Germany in the mid 1970s where I met dozens of people of various nationalities who were in the Camps. They, like Alexander McClelland [3], rejected the outrageous myths about costly & labor intensive "mass gassing" etc. too.

    The mounds of bodies you see in the grisly photos are typhus victims of a disease so rampant that 14,000 Camp Inmates died even after the British "Liberation" of Bergen-Belsen[4]

    While I dislike discussing the grossly distorted & overblown Holocaust®, I dislike even more the proliferation of such specious myths like "Gun Control saves lives", "6 Million Jews gassed by the Germans" etc.

    Please consider the following quote that explains the widespread belief in Holocaustian dogma:

    "It is easier to believe a lie one has heard a hundred times than a truth one has never heard before." --American sociologist Robert S. Lynd

    The following is simply another example of truths you may never have heard:

    “HOLOCAUST DEPROGRAMMING COURSE”
    https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/


    While we may disagree on the veracity of "the Holocaust®", we appear to agree on the importance of the 2nd Amendment.

    Best Wishes for a Merry Christmas!



    [1] “Hitler’s War Against the Racists”
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/hitlers-war-racists/

    EXCERPT “An avid student of National Socialism for over 50 years I have yet to see a National Socialist written or uttered comment critical of other ethnicities save that of the Jews. But, even in this respect the criticism was levelled not so much at Jews as to their social habits and their political intrigues.

    In truth, non-Whites in both the United States and Britain were discriminated against much worse than they were in National Socialist Germany.
    There is an irony that only in the Workers Socialist Reich, including the armed forces, coloureds were treated as equals. Not so in the United States and certainly not the case in Perfidious Albion.

    Hitler’s Wehrmacht-Waffen SS combination was actually the most culturally, ethnically & religiously diverse military force in Western History” CONTINUED



    [2] “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
    http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/150-000-jews-in-hitlers-army/
    EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

    Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).
    So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

    “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”COTINUED


    [3] http://www.whale.to/b/con1.html
    To: The MEDIA
    
Re: CONCENTRATION CAMP SURVIVORS




    [4] “After Daybreak: The Liberation of Bergen-Belsen, 1945”
    http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-8052-4232-4

    EXCERPT “Why did 14,000 inmates of the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp die after its liberation and under British control? Shephard, creator of the Emmy-winning documentary series The World at War , casts a critical but judicious eye on British management of the camp. Drawing on letters and diaries by British military and medical personnel, he paints a textured picture of the camp's desperate state, rife with starvation and typhus.”CONTINUED
     
  11. Maccabee

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    I suspect that he figured he can use some of them as useful idiots. If they do what he says then he would spare them.

    I'm not saying that the allies were always the wearing the white hats. There were atrocities on both sides.
     
  12. Jonsa

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    Costliest way possible? I agree that shooting them was time consuming and costly (See Einsatzgruppen field reports), but starving them to death, working them to death and enabling rampant disease, were also part of the final solution. Then consider the manpower required to gas several thousand people a day was minimal and body removal entirely handled by slave labor which was a far cheaper. The Nazis were smart enough to understand this, funny how denialists aren't.

    As to diverting resources, I guess those people weren't consuming valuable resources before being transported. Stuffing them in cattle cars and hauling them off to their industrialized deaths was damn cost efficient.

    But feel free to question your Nazi idols motivations, priorities, assessments, hatreds and crimes. I know I have and come to the polar opposite conclusion and perspective that you hold so dear.




    Yes, I've seen that link of canned distortions & lies of omission that evades addressing the hard facts that debunk Holocaustian dogma dozens of times.

    "jewish" in name only you mean in accord with the Nuremburg laws. I guess such dumfounding naivete is to be expected in some denialist arguments.


    Well then if they say so it must be true. OTOH, there were any number of camps didn't have gas chambers. In fact only a very small minority of them did or didn't you know that? I'll bet you didn't meet a single soul from Treblinka, sobibor or any of the other Projekt Reinhardt camps that told you that, not that there were more than a handful of survivors to begin with.







    Some friggin' student.
    Guess he didn't read Mein Kampf.
    Guess he didn't study Hitler's clearly expressed sentiments about the inferior Slavs (russians) being ruled by Bolshevik Jews.
    Guess he didn't study the nazi's racial policies other than those concerning the jews.

    When one is confronted with outrageous fantasies such as this so called "student" of yours has presented its hard to keep a straight face with such incredilble Lilliputian intellect on display.


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! Ever heard of the British Empire?



    Yet more utter distortion. The "jews" who served were mischling, under Nuremberg laws.

    Actually the Nazis honored about 10,000 jews who served in the German Army during WW1. Full jews at that.

    As for the Kapos and sonderkommando of the camps. Yep people who were prepared to do just about anything for a little longer life and some petty freedoms and comforts. When surround by depravity, hatred and death, does anyone who hasn't experienced it know how they would actually behave as opposed to how they'd like to think they'd behave?




    Could it be that even after the shooting stops the chaos continues? Could it be that due to starvation and disease and exposure that many were as good as dead upon liberation?

    Naaaaaaah. the magic peace fairy came along, waved her magic wand and presto, all was well in the world.


    Merry Christmas to you
     
  13. Grau

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    While what you have written is the usual factually flawed, insulting, & sarcastic Holocaustian drivel, I hope you'll enjoy a Merry Christmas and / or Happy Hanukkah
     
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    Grau, you are an amazing human being!! You stand in front of the big holocaust monster and dare to look into its face unafraid!!! You and Ursula Haverbeck putting everyone else to shame.

    I've spent hours tonight reading in your link and feel like embracing you for what you are doing for my homeland and my family. It is too late for them to hear the truth.

    Thank you, Gray!
     
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    You do seem to have a rather difficult time separating fact from outrageous apologism. As for insulting sarcasm, I can't help it when confronted with such intellectually bankrupt nonsense as that promoted by the jew haters and nazi lovers of the holocaust denial movement.

    Best wishes of the season right back atcha.
     
  16. Grau

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    I know no
    among those who debunk the specious myths promulgated by fraudulent[1] & grasping, fame & profit driven[2], [3] disciples of the Cult of Holocaustianity.

    According to a recent ADL study, billions of people around the world simply reject left over WW 2 Propaganda, the outrageous & conflicting Holocaust tales[4] & the impossibility of one country fighting a 3 Front War to systematically exterminate 6 million people while there were 1,092,000 Jewish holocaust survivors remaining alive as of 2003.[5]

    The Holocaust® Industry was built on fraudulence (i.e. fake "Human Skin Lampshades", fake "Human fat soap", fake shrunken heads & perpetuates the same level of fraudulence for easy cash, pity mongering & a Raison d'être to seize Palestine.

    Honest examination & open discussion of a historic era has nothing to do with jew hating or Nazi loving. It is simply a desire for a truthful rendition of today's Fake History written by vindictive Victors with diverse nefarious agendas.



    Best wishes for the Holidays





    [1] “Allegations of Fake Holocaust Claims Just Keep Growing”
    http://forward.com/articles/138473/allegations-of-fake-holocaust-claims-just-keep-gro/#ixzz3NUjH4LEg



    [2] “Holocaust Hoaxer: ‘Lied to Enhance the Truth’”
    http://newobserveronline.com/holocaust-hoaxer-lied-enhance-truth/
    EXCERPT “A shocking insight into the duplicitous minds of Jewish holocaust hoaxers has been provided with the confession by a prominent “survivor” that he made up Auschwitz lies “in order to enhance the truth.”
    Joseph Hirt, who has spent the last 15 years touring schools and educational institutions all over the US East Coast, was exposed as a liar last month by a local schoolteacher.”CONTINUED



    [3] “HOLOCAUST PROFITEERS”
    http://internationalresearchcenter....s-issues-war-of-cultures/holocaust-profiteers


    [4] “Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fa...ap-Lampshades-Fertilizer-Mengele-Miracles.php

    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED



    [5] “NAZI GASSINGS NEVER HAPPENED”
    http://www.nazigassings.com
    EXCERPT " 9) The numbers of “holocaust survivors” are enormous—even today. The numbers are well into the hundreds of thousands even sixty years after the war. In 2003 an Israeli demographer, Sergio Della Pergola, stated in an official Israeli report that there were 1.092,000 Jewish holocaust survivors alive in the world in 2003."CONTINUED
     
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    While I agree that the inevitable hoaxers are despicable and deserve excoriation they represent a very very very small % of the victims. It is this use of a NON-REPRESENTATIVE sample as evidence to exclude the overwhelming amount of verified facts accumulated thru tens of thousands of man years of research and investigation highlights the intellectual bankruptcy of the denialist movement. those that repeatedly fail to accept this reality demonstrate an intellectual intransigence that generally is the result of emotional intransigence, faith, or lack of intellect.


    So we are in agreement that these holocaust hoaxers are not nice people taking advantage of others guilty to benefit themselves while propagating lies, exaggerations and myths. You wish to use them as evidence of a "hoax", except the "hoaxers" are being called out by both historians and the holocaust establishment. These scumbags are not being exposed by denialists, they are being exposed by the very people you think are promoting the hoax in the first place. This position clearly demonstrates the fallacious logic denialists employ, indeed this simple fact seems to zoom right over their heads.

    Suggest you look up the playful activities of Das Reich on both fronts if you doubt that "extermination" was not part of the plan.
     
  18. Grau

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    What Plan?

    “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”
    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190


    AND

    Re: Holocaust® hoaxers and fame, pity & cash driven Holocaust® profiteers[1], [2], you claim:

    How do you know that: " ....they represent a very very very small % of the victims." and how do you know that
    Since both of your unlikely claims are simply your unsupported opinions tainted by decades of unquestioning belief in unproven, fame & profit driven, contradictory claims and / or Holocaustian indoctrination, there is no "fallacious logic"

    It is as unlikely that a Holocaust® hoaxer would suddenly admit that he or she had been lying for decades as it is that any criminal would walk into a Police station and confess to a crime he had committed decades ago.

    It is just as unlikely that those making their living promoting the specious myths of the Holocaust® are the ones exposing other hoaxers. Why would they do anything to jeopardize the very myths they are trying to promote? It's simply not logical.

    According to the Holocaust Claims Conference it is likely that the number of Holocaust® hoaxers are "much higher":

    “QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST”“Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million”
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298









    [1] “Holocaust Hoaxer: ‘Lied to Enhance the Truth’”
    http://newobserveronline.com/holocaust-hoaxer-lied-enhance-truth/
    EXCERPT “A shocking insight into the duplicitous minds of Jewish holocaust hoaxers has been provided with the confession by a prominent “survivor” that he made up Auschwitz lies “in order to enhance the truth.”
    Joseph Hirt, who has spent the last 15 years touring schools and educational institutions all over the US East Coast, was exposed as a liar last month by a local schoolteacher.”CONTINUED


    [2] “HOLOCAUST PROFITEERS”
    http://internationalresearchcenter....s-issues-war-of-cultures/holocaust-profiteers
     
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    You really should read Lacquers book instead of pulling an out of context quote from it. Lacquer doesn't deny the holocaust in any way, nor does he deny that there was a "final solution". It is true that no written order from hitler to murder millions has been found. Not that Hitler and the gang ever gave any consideration to their 1,000 year legacy or anything. Nah, they'd be as stupid as denialists and proudly issue all kinds of extermination orders that the general population not only of Germany but of all the conquered lands and those fighting the Nazis would rather negatively react to.

    As to the very small % of scumbag hoaxers, I know this because of the hundreds of thousands of man hours of research, the processing and correlation of massive amounts of forensic evidence, the over 10,000 trials conducted after the war, etc. etc. etc.

    As to those making a living promoting the holocaust, it seems you want to play the quantification game as in "how many people are ..." ? When you play do you include all those who work in Museums and memorials? do you include all those who have written books on the subject? All those who teach the history? All the administrators involved in reparation payments? The bankers who facilitate the transactions? Exactly how many of these false "profits" are there?
     
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    So, since there are no records of "...a program of mass murder and racial genocide...", I suppose Holocaustians must believe that the Germans communicated their Evil, non existent Extermination Plan telepathically:

    EXCERPT " The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED [1]

    Guess what, they're still denying the Holocaust®, Telepathically[2]

    I'm tired of this thread & attempting to enlighten angry & heavily indoctrinated Holocaustians who worship their fame driven "High Priests", their profit driven, self serving Holocaust® Industry & taxpayer subsidized, grisly Theme Parks [3]

    You're welcome to believe whatever fantasies you want, however, billions of people around the world are neither so easily or willingly duped[4] nor driven by greed & delusion to promulgate such specious lies about what is now the world's most popular nation[5]




    [1] “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” by Nicholas Kollerstrom
    https://www.scribd.com/document/282721687/Breaking-the-Spell-the-Holocaust-Myth-Reality

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communi-cations between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED



    [2] “Germans Now Denying The Holocaust Telepathically, Say Jews”

    "HUMILIATING"
    (*)
    (*)"But official assurances came too late for Israeli tourists Shmuel Linsky and his wife, Diane.
    (*)
    "Just the other day I saw a very relaxed German couple with their children spending our reparations money on ice-cream and hot dogs," says Shmuel scornfully. "They were deliberately and maliciously acting in a way that suggested they were proud to be German, without any sense of shame or guilt. I suddenly felt very threatened by this kind of unspoken anti-Semitism and was overwhelmed by the urge to radio an Israeli F-16 fighter bomber."
    (*)
    Diane Linsky nods her head in pained agreement. They had decided on an impromptu vacation in Germany after watching Angela Merkel on television deliver an impassioned speech to Israel's parliament, the Knesset.
    (*)
    "Mrs Merkel said that Germans would do everything they could to help Israel and protect the Jewish people from anti-Semitism," she says, her voice cracking. "But when we got here we found we had to pay for our own hotel accommodation and none of the restaurants will let us eat for free, even though we're Jews and have a long and unique history of suffering."
    (*)
    Shmuel, too, is overcome by emotion, hardly able to speak. "It's been humiliating. Even the waiters expect a tip, reminding me of my horrific ordeal in Auschwitz, which I miraculously survived by hiding in a chimney until the camp was liberated," the 36-year-old Mr Linsky adds bitterly.
    (*)
    The Linskys say they had been made to feel "persecuted" and intend to file a claim for compensation. "In fact, we sued before we came out here," says Diane. "Our lawyer in Tel Aviv was offering special terms and a 30 percent discount."
    (*)


    [3] “The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum: A Decade of Increasing Taxpayer Funding”
    http://www.wrmea.org/2003-december/...-a-decade-of-increasing-taxpayer-funding.html

    EXCERPT “Now American taxpayers provide some 67 percent of the Holocaust Museum’s annual budget, this year to the tune of $38.4 million. Its funding for fiscal year 2004 was increased to $39,997,000. By comparison, this year the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts received less than $34 million in federal funding.

    On Oct. 12, 2000, moreover, then-President Bill Clinton signed legislation granting the museum permanent status as a federal agency, in effect locking in federal support. As a museum press release explained at the time, “Permanent status permits Congress to provide funding without having to review the federal role.

    Americans well might wonder why, at a time when a memorial to World War II veterans who died for this country only now is being undertaken, when a national museum dedicated to Native Americans is just being completed, and when ground is far from being broken for a museum devoted to African Americans—the latter two groups having suffered here, at the hands of this country—the U.S. government places a higher priority on a museum dedicated to the victims and survivors of a European horror.”CONTINUED


    [4] ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/


    [5] “BBC Poll: Israel Among World's Least Popular Nations”
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/bbc-poll-israel-among-world-s-least-popular-nations-1.525890
    EXCERPT“The annual BBC World Service poll finds Germany most popular; only countries less popular than Israel are North Korea, Pakistan and Iran.”CONTINUED
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Take a break, Mr. Grau! You'll be getting grey hair soon over this topic.:roll: Not worth it! Most people have moved on to greener pastures! Take it from Abe Foxman, one of the most well-known figures in the fight against anti-Semitism, head of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), he stated:

    "The Holocaust is something different. It is a singular event. It is not simply one example of genocide but a near successful attempt on the life of God's chosen children and, thus, on God Himself. It is an event that is the antithesis of Creation as recorded in the Bible; and like its direct opposite, which is relived weekly with the Sabbath and yearly with the Torah, it must be remembered from generation to generation."

    http://martinezperspective.com/2015/08/holocaustianity-on-the-march/
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    We are dealing with God Himself! How dare you, we, doubt the Jewish Holocaust stories! We are mere cattle! Baaa...

    Sit down, Grau, put up your feet and enjoy "Legal Notice to God"...

    http://www.haruth.com/jhumor/jhumor61.htm

    Ein bisschen Spass muss sein, dann ist die Welt voll Sonnenschein...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ8tY0c-s04
    Have a left-over treat from my birthday!:clapping:
    [​IMG]:wink:
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the laugh, Jazz,

    Who am I to refute the laughable pseudo-logic of that corpulent con man, Abe Foxman?

    I have no illusions about changing gullible minds that have been so thoroughly brainwashed by so many fraudulent sources for so many decades Re: the "Typhuscaust" aka "Holocaust®" by posting simple facts that are contrary to their indoctrination.

    I am reminded of a quote from Al Gore that:

    "You'll never get people to understand something that they're being paid to not understand"


    A belated, Happy Birthday to you.
     
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    Yes attempting to maintain such an outrageously ridiculous intransigently ignorant a position as denying the holocaust must be very tiring.

    As for no records of mass murder and genocide? For such a scholar of the holocaust as yourself I am amazed that you are unaware the Einsatzgruppen Kommando - (especially Das Riech) DETAILED field reports of their daily murder totals. But then again I suppose intransigence is accompanied by the convenience of ignoring that which one doesn't want to know.
     
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    No, it is only tiring to deal with insulting, brainwashed Holocaustian Cult members who cannot provide sources for their specious & absurd delusion that Germany's National Socialists had the time & resources to fight a 3 Front War AND shuttle, feed, treat, house 6 Million people only to exterminate them.
    It's simply not possible to to do all of the above while under constant bombardment.

    Re:
    Documenting deaths by typhus does not constitute "murder totals".


    “NAZI GASSINGS NEVER HAPPENED”
    http://www.nazigassings.com/

    EXCERPT "People believe wrongly that the “Holocaust” is based on an enormous body of “irrefutable evidence.” Those who deny it happened must be either insane, or nearly insane—and driven by only the foulest of motives.

    The exact opposite is the case. It is the holocaust claims which are, in fact, driven by a fanatical Jewish campaign of systematic and wholesale lying—and hardly any evidence at all. What little “evidence” there is turns out to be bogus or totally irrelevant."CONTINUED

    So, what "bogus or totally irrelevant" Source are you using to support your delusions about the Sonderkommando (aka Kapos) / Einsatzgruppen Kommando
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since attempts to dupe the public by the Holocaust® Industry via, "Human Skin Lampshades", "Human fat soap" shrunken Heads, mythical "Gas Chambers" have been debunked, desperate Holocaust® hucksters have now turned their focus to the even more nebulous activities of the Einsatzgruppen fight against the numerous & heavily armed Eastern Partisans / Terrorists who numbered in the hundreds of thousands, constituted an army of their own & murdered German soldiers & civilians alike.

    Like today's "War on Terror", Germany's Einsatzgruppen were deployed to fight heavily armed Terrorists of their own cause.

    I'm sure you're familiar with how genocidal Zionist Colonists currently deal with Palestinian Partisans




    “Partisan War and Reprisal Killings”
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1493/

    The Partisan War in the East 1941-1944
    Dr. jur. Karl Siegert, Professor at the University of Göttingen, drew up a legal expert report shortly after the end of World War Two, in which he showed that reprisal killings were, to a certain degree, common practice and not against international law.[5]

    Hence, reprisals and shootings of hostages can be considered as tactically questionable and possibly as morally reprehensible, but strictly speaking this was not against the law at that time. This should always be kept in mind when the topic at issue is the reactions of German troops in Russia and Serbia, i.e., in vast regions where a weak occupation power had to battle brutal partisans in order to facilitate the oft-disrupted flow of supplies to the eastern front.

    Partisan attacks began immediately following the start of the eastern war; certain partisan units deliberately let themselves be overrun, in order then to engage in sabotage behind the advancing German troops and to commit horrific atrocities against soldiers and civilians they caught unaware. Later on, partisan units as large as entire divisions were flown into the hinterland of the German troops, or smuggled in through the lines.[6]

    Naturally, the data to be found in the subject literature about the numbers of partisans and the damage they caused vary widely, since there are few reliable documents about this kind of unlawful warfare and since the Soviet Union also always had a strong propagandistic interest in the historiography of partisan warfare.

    The most reliable data seems to be that provided by Bernd Bonwetsch,[7] who gives the numbers of partisans as follows: late 1941: 90,000; early 1942: 80,000; mid-1942: 150,000; spring 1943: 280,000; by 1944, skyrocketing to approximately half a million.
    These figures are based both on Soviet and on contemporaneous Reich-German sources.

    The damage done by the partisans, especially in the area of Byelorussia, is considerably more difficult to quantify. Wilenchik tells of impressive quantities of weapons and ammunition that were allegedly at the partisans' disposal, as well as of extensive crippling of the German supply lines through paralysis of railway lines, especially in 1944.[8] In general terms, this is confirmed by Werner.[9]"CONTINUED
     

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