Netanyahu: Iran lied about not pursuing nuclear weapons

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    You are in no position to question the Director General of the IAEA

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  2. notme

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    Iran is complying with the nuclear deal according to the IAEA. So you know. Dunno what you're talking about.
    And the Saudi's are always happy to be the biggest player in the region if that's what it takes. You dont need MBS for that.
    Just shia and sunni rivalry will do. Everybody knows that.
     
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    Yes, always that fear of being persecuted,... but Wikipedia doesn't say it actually happened,... in fact,.. there is a fatwa out in Iran demanding the opposite from the supreme leader himself. It's mentioned in your link. :)

    and for the luls.... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/12/israel.iran
    Can you tell me about their stereotype concerning money?

    It was until the US spread their norms and values about democracy and put in a fascist ruler to murder it's own citizens.... all orchestrated from the US embassy. They did the same thing with Iraq, when they helped Saddam in the saddle.

    That's how the US ends up being the biggest sponsor of terrorism. It's a democracy,.. but hey... so is Israel. And look at them Israeli Jews ethnic cleanse across their border to expand their apartheid state.

    It's as dirty as it's leader can be criminal.

    PFFFF.... you go hold GWB accountable for his fake evidence he made up to start a war in Iraq. The amount of US lives he destroyed with that. Not to mention he is responsible for ISIS, the massive refugee crises, and massacres all over the place. Besides that, the US is hardly democratic. You only get to vote between a turd sandwich or on a giant dousj,.. and than you're stuck with idiot no matter what kind of approval rating.
     
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    Not a bad idea!
     
  5. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Iran is not nor has it ever been a threat to the US..
     
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    well, sure as hell not an existential one, thats for sure. They are a threat to american interests because their regional political aspirations are driven by a religious ideology that transcends the mere economic driven political interests of america.

    BiBi has his own domestic corruption scandals to deal with so deflecting to the external existential threat, in english for his audience of one, of iranian nuclear Armageddon. His "tough guy" image plays well in times of high tension and conflict.

    And its not like bibi is an accomplished liar as well.
     
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    Well then, I suppose the words "the community of 80,000 dropped to less than 20,000" doesn't really say that the Jewish community of 80,000 really dropped to less than 20,000 due to migration. What does it mean?

    The Jewish leaders in Iran made a deal with the devil following the brutal execution of one of the leading Jewish figures, the industrialist Habib Elghanian. They pledged their allegiance to the Islamic revolution and it's leader Khomeini in the hope of saving their community. Only as long as they keep their heads down and mouths shut are they protected by that fatwa. It helps that the Iranians are not usually anti-semitic. In fact, Iran is the least anti-semitic Muslim country, official paranoia regarding Israel and Zionism notwithstanding.

    The expats' initiative took place in 2007, long after the migration mentioned by Wikipedia. Three quarters of Iranian Jews have fled the Iranian Islamic paradise already. Do pay attention.

    What stereotype? You mean, greed that makes people do despicable things for material gain? Like the expropriation of Jewish properties by Egyptian and Iraqi governments? Like the Arabs massacring and robbing the Jewish community of Hebron back in 1929? That kind of stereotype?

    The rest of your post is so full of logical fallacies, that it can't be answered without an exhaustive tour through history and Middle Eastern realities, which would be wildly off topic. The bottom line is "no, Iran wasn't democratic then, it's not democratic today, and its democratic or undemocratic nature in 1953 has nothing whatsoever to do with the threat posed by the Iranian theocracy today".
     
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    You are clearly clueless on nuclear technology!
     
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    Israel paying Jews to leave Iran:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-state-we-feel-secure-and-happy-a6934931.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/12/israel.iran
     
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    I think its a no point aslong as israel has nukes. Iran has the right to defend itself with their own in that case

    Would finaly slow israel agression in his neigbors to.
     
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    Really? You don't see the relationship? Mmmmm I am guessing you don't know much about this.
     
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    They’re a threat to our ally. What do allies do for each other?

    That’s right.
     
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    Big difference.....Trump has gone thru 15 months of being looked into and there still isn't one shread of evidence that he or any on his campaign has colluded with the Russians.

    Can you say the same about Iran and all the Intel from different countries now looking into the New info Netanyahu released?
     
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    Yet they admit they have not inspected on any Iranian Military bases. You are able to comprehend that, Right?


    When will that part compute, filter down thru the clog?
     
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    What has Israel ever done for us? They have been spying on us and screwing us over for decades....The Lavon affair, The USS Liberty.....Then a cadre of Israeli moles like Wolfowitz, Pearl, Zakheim and dozens of others oozed their way into high level positions in our Defense and State Department and crafted the idiotic foreign policy of the Cheney/Bush era which has cost us trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of our bravery young men who have been killed and maimed as a result of this Israel centric foreign policy.....How many Israeli soldiers were killed in Iraq? Afghanistan? With allies like this, who needs enemies?
     
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    Iran didn't send dozens of undercover assassins to murder American military personnel during the Iraq War fiasco?
    Iran hasn't taken U. S. Navy personnel into custody at gunpoint and forced them to their knees while in the INTERNATIONAL waters of the Persian Gulf?
    Iran didn't invade sovereign United States soil (our Embassy in Tehran) and capture U. S. citizens there, holding them as hostages for 444 days?
    Iran hasn't boasted that it will "wipe Israel off the map"?

    Those are just a very few examples of the bristling hostility that this "Islamic Republic" holds toward us our allies....
    But you would sit placidly by and let these Islamo-Nazis develop and wield nuclear weapons on top of ICBM's?

    Hint: the best time to kill a rattlesnake is before it slithers out of its egg....
     
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    all no except for one that was nearly 40 years ago. The only nation that carries out world wide terrorism is the US
     
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    Then perhaps you should support a neoCON for president next time. Cheney/Bush, along with the treasure trove of Israieli moles that oozed into the DOD and the State Department, Pearle, Wolfowitz, Zakheim and dozens of others. Pearle and Wolfowitz had worked directly with Netanyahu to create the document that later led to the idiotic, bloody, trillion dollar turd hunts which are still going on more than a decade later. The problem with Iran was a result of US and British spies acting covertly to overthrow a democratically elected leader and install a ruthless puppet dictator that terrorized his people for decades while selling out Iran's oil riches for personal gain while his people were being treated like chattel

    . Now, instead of attacking them and instituting another "regime change" and installing another U S stooge who will sell his own people out at every turn, we should let Iran work out their own problems. If they cross borders and bomb and attack Israel, I hope they get their asses handed to them. Conversely, if Israel Crassus any borders and attacks Iran, I hope they get every one of their planes blown to bits. International law prohibits these so called, premptive strikes.
     
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    It's not "Israel", but a fund set up by expats. It says so in your source. The mention of "Israel's official blessing" is lame flamebait, since Israel welcomes any Jew regardless.

    Three quarters of the Iranian Jews have already left Iran long before this offer was made. Iran is not a good place for Jews, unless you think that keeping the community members in a tight leash, under severe threat for actions that seem trivial to us, is a situation to be desired.

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.pr...s-ban-is-a-fearful-reminder-of-past-1.5493369

    So much for the Iranian regime's tolerance for minorities.
     
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    That I am evading is false. That you are evading is true :)

    You set up a strawman fallacy by claiming that I trusted Iran in order to avoid the content of my post. I never made any such claim and whether I trust Iran or not is irrelevant so its a red herring.

    Further - I previously stated that I do not trust Iran and so you are asking a nonsense question that has already been answered - another avoidance an evasion tactic.

    Then you cry like a baby because I call you out on this by saying your reading comprehension is deficient - when clearly that is the case or you are being disingenuously ignorant.

    The fact of the matter is that there is a process in place based on an agreement we made. The other 5 members that were party to that agreement are satisfied that Iran is complying with that process.

    What you or I think about this process does not change the fact that the other 5 members are satisfied with the process.

    What you or I think of the process will not change the fact that backing out of this agreement will have consequences.

    Perhaps you are not concerned about these consequences - likely because you do not even seem to understand they exist - but a whole lot of people in high places within our Gov't are - including the Secretary of Defense - James Mattis and a raft of other Generals such as Joseph Dunford - chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    Neither of these Generals "trust" Iran so stop dwelling on this red herring and try to understand why - even though they do not trust Iran- that they do not want to pull out of the deal.
     
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    I don't usually trust wikipedia, so I've looked for other sources.

    There were many Jews in Karachi once upon a time, but those who lived there before the creation of Pakistan in 1947 can't really be called Pakistani Jews, can they?

    It seems there really are some Jews left in Pakistan, but they're mostly hiding their identities.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/fishel-benkhald/observing-passing-as-the-_b_6981120.html

    Anti-semitism is rampant there, with religious schools teaching children that Christians and Jews are not human beings.
     
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    I was only pointing out that you were wrong with no Jews in Pakistan, never have been,
     
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    Wrong in so many places.
    Let us start from the basics: Israel has never declared it has nukes. It has never used nukes, nor thretened anybody of using nukes or destroying their country.

    Iran, on the other hand, signed the NPT, consequently got nuclear technology, then used that technology to develop nukes, which it signed it will never do.
    Another thing: Iran is constantly talking about the destruction of Israel. A deed that can be acheived only by nukes.
     

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