Netanyahu: Israel will 'crush' Lebanon if Hezbollah attacks

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  1. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Semite is a language group. But always.... its complicated. Essentially a racial group spoke
    a certain language group. Arabs and Jews are called Semites today not for the language but for
    their blood kingship.
    Until the 1970's - 1980's it was still possible to assert that being a Jew meant belonging to a
    religion (like being a Mormon I suppose) but a religion with deep cultural roots. No more - we
    we can identify Jewishness in the genes. We can identify the various Jewish groups (I am one
    sixty-fourth Sephardi Jew and one thirty second African Bantu)
    We can go further and identify one of the tribal lines to Moses' brother Aaron. The Cohen line
    identifies the Levite connection. Isn't that interesting?
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand most of the Golan belonged to Syria. It was a strategically important
    asset to Syria as it overlooked Galilee. Israel negotiated peace with Egypt by
    surrendering the land it conquered. Not so with Syria.
    In effect what Syria said after 1967 and 1973 wars was that Syria will not seek
    peace with Israel and Israel must give back the Golan. So the Golan will be a
    military outpost of Syria - and maybe Iran, Hezbollah, ISIS or other Jihadis.

    Israel is damned for keeping the Golan, and damned for giving it back to Syria.
    At the very least America shouldn't recognize Israel's claim to this area.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there is no jewish genotype, period.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This from Wiki relates to me:

    Y-DNA of Portuguese Jews
    A recent study by Inês Nogueiro et al. (July 2009) on the Jews of north-eastern Portugal (region of Trás-os-Montes)
    showed that their paternal lines consisted of 35.2% lineages more typical of Europe (R : 31.7%, I : 3.5%), and 64.8%
    lineages more typical of the Near East than Europe (E1b1b: 8.7%, G: 3.5%, J: 36.8%, T: 15.8%) and consequently,
    the Portuguese Jews of this region were genetically closer to other Jewish populations than to Portuguese non-Jews.

    We all have admixtures of various genotypes. I suppose you, like me, would be about 3% Neanderthal and maybe a
    dash of recently found Homo denisovan.
    The most unexpected for me was reading about the Cohen line amongst Jews - about half of all Jews called Cohen
    are related via the ancient Cohanim line - from the ancient Levites of Israel.
    :)
     
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    I don't understand your reply. What does "ancestral Muslims" mean? How do you know how many Jews and Christians converted to Islam? Why don't we find Egyptians - with a much older religion than Judaism - all over the Middle East before the spread of Islam?

    My point was that a community living on a certain territory is not necessarily a nation. Just like Turkish communities in Germany are not a different Turkish nation. Or are they?
     
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    Israel is very good at bombing women and children, not so good at fighting actual warriors. That's why they're always trying to get the US to fight their battles for them. And many in the US are stupid enough to do it.
     
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    Are you?
     
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    Sure, if you have no idea whatsoever about realities on the ground.

    People living for more than a millennium together on a relatively small territory would certainly speak the same language, one would expect. But Arabs in Palestine speak different dialects. There are huge differences not only from town to town, but also from street to street in the same town. Even personal pronouns are different. How does your theory explain these differences?

    Furthermore, such an ancient community leaves traces in history: coins, pottery, buildings, art, myths, legends, literature, documents (marriage contracts, codes of law, trade treaties), mentions by other nations with which it came into contact in one form or another. Where are the traces left by your ancient non-Jewish Palestinians?
     
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    Israel is a paper tiger. And Israel knows it. That's why the the Israeli lobby spends tons of money bribing corrupt US and British politicians. They want Americans and British people to do Israel's dirty work for them.
     
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    Remember folks... only Israel is allowed to blow up schools and hospitals.
     
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    Yes, there is a Jewish genotype.

    https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/gb-2009-10-1-r7

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nat...&tracking_referrer=blogs.discovermagazine.com

    Jews are a nation.
     
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    Some people on this forum need help. As in Doctors. Not one, you guys need a team of Doctors.
     
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    Nonsense. Hamas was keeping rockets in an empty school. The UN found them and reported them prior to Israel starting the war by attacking Gaza repeatedly and killing several Hamas and civilians. Hamas's response 'to protect it's people. Who would not attack when they have been repeatedly attacked by top military weapons to defend their people' was the excuse Israel used to do massive killing of civilians and children claiming she needed to attack to protect her people. That is what Israel always does when she wants a war. She provokes Hamas until they retaliate. Then she claims she is murdering to protect her people. The Western Leaders obviously know this but they sing Israel's tune. One of the most disgusting things I saw while Israel was committing her massacres was a US newscaster laughing as she said Israel was needing more bombs as she had used up all she had.

    As regards the hospitals Israel attacked. One I can remember. It was full of refugees who had fled their homes as Israel was terrorising the people telling them if they did not leave their homes she was going to bomb and murder them. If the left she would only destroy their homes. What she was doing was a war crime. They left and took refuge in the Hospital. It had been searched more than once and there was absolutely no sign of any Hamas. Three times they contacted Israel and told them so., Israel bombed them.
     
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    Understand the nature of Propaganda War.
    In this case if Israel does not retaliate, she loses
    If she retaliates, she loses.
    Hiding behind children is perfect for the Jihadis (not just Hamas, ANY Jihadi, ie ISIS, Al Quaeda etc..)
    because it provides protection for the sniper or rocket launcher. And should this position actually be hit
    then it provides the television coverage which increases sympathy for the Jihadi cause and even more
    attacks on Jews, everywhere. For the Jihadi, the more you lose the more you win - and they love death.
     
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    So why couldn't the Israelis stop America selling AWAC's (radar planes) to the Saudis?
    Why can't the Isaelis get those wonderful "bunker busting bombs" from America to use
    on Iran?
    Why are there on Israeli casualties in combat missions or wars, and no British or American
    troops?
    Why did England hand over its weapons, forts and bases to the Arabs when it withdrew from
    Palestine in 1948?
    Why did America sit on its hands during the 1949 and 1967 wars and refused to sell arms to
    Israel?
    Why did Israel try to shoot down USA spy planes in the 1960's, 1970's when America was
    trying to monitor Israel's nuclear program?
    Please explain, I am confused.
     
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    You want war.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I want truth.
     
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    Only Muslims use children as human shields.
     
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    Yeah, and then whine: "LOOK! They butcher children, those despicable Western pigs!"
     
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    It is well known that when Israel was ethnically cleansing Christians and Muslims from their homeland she also took their books. This was to make sure their written history was destroyed as Israel goes about trying to destroy the history of the land and recreate it as Jewish. Frankly I do not understand why the UN has not brought you to task for that like she does ISIS.

    https://electronicintifada.net/content/great-book-robbery-1948/9104

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/stealing-palestine-study-historical-and-cultural-theft
     
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    No you have it wrong. It should say The IDF use Muslim children as human shields:
    Israel-Gaza: IDF used Palestinians as human shields 1,200 occasions in last five years, say Israeli defence officials
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    13-year-old Palestinian boy, Muhammed Badwan, is chained to the front of an Israeli armoured vehicle in Biddo
    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...s-say-israeli-defence-officials-30483468.html

    Two Israeli soldiers guilty of using human shield in Gaza
    The soldiers were found guilty of reckless endangerment and conduct unbecoming for forcing the nine-year-old boy to check suspected booby-traps.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11462635

     
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    Hopeless.
     

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