Neutrality of Teachers

That does put you in a difficult position

Since not many people are willing to get fired over principle its just another reason why our education system is not good

 

When the emphasis on Testing ceases, the learning will increase.

Adfundum is dead straight. The admin exactly in TX acted exactly as did the admin in NC.

 

I am not for one moment saying that all the teachers should teach in the way I’ve outlined. It’s pretty obvious that a maths teacher has to supply information necessary for the subject for example.
I can easily understand that religion would be a difficult subject especially in parts of America. But I’m assuming that it depends on the teacher and the last thing he/she should do would be to cast doubts on a pupil from a very religious background. So the teacher frames a question something like ‘Does a religious belief actually harm those who do not believe in a supreme being? This produces the answer ‘Live and let live’

Teachers are human beings.
Er yes, I think we know that, go on

Human beings who are by nature political animals
No their not, if they were then Trump wouldn’t be your President.

I want teachers to teach my kids how to think not what to think.
Which is the whole point of the post.

 

What about Obama never earning a GPA or never making the Deans List ?

 

What nonsense even chimps are political animals. The politics of a Chimpanzee troops is less complicated and far more basic but it is politics none the less. Most human interactions among human beings are political, there's office politics church politics (sadly) almost all human interactions involving more than than 2 people involve politics on one level or the other. At least that's what behaviorists tell us and I've nothing in my personal history that causes me to doubt them and much to cause me to agree.

 

Cari has it absolutely right.

 

Nah, their methods were the same lefty government controlled means of production and enforcement. Pretending Nazis were somehow not leftists, ignores everything that proved they were lefties...

 

IMO, large brick and mortar schools are now an obsolete boondoggle.
Almost all education should be moved online, and the entire education budget needs to be transferred to the direct control of the parents and guardians of children. Allow teachers to create their own independent schools that will convince the real stakeholders to fund them.

 

You make a good point. Let the parents decide. Most teachers might decide to create small 20 student schools from their homes or rented venues to attract students from families with working parents and to provide close supervision and assistance to students.

$14K to 20K/student should provide far more incentive to offer a good product than what teachers are paid by the current broken system.

 

In your own school you can select your students, control the curriculum, make the rules, and hire your own staff - if you need any.

 

In a perfect world, what a teacher should be able to do is provide a base definition of all political sides and stick with that. It might be an easier proposition to handle if you had an even distribution of political types across the board in the profession. The problem is that most teachers in public schools are left-wing, the unions are VERY much left-wing, and when you get to higher education, it's so far tilted to the left that it's almost hilarious. Given such an overwhelming disparity of like-minded people, it's almost inevitable that you have teachers - when they start discussing politics - crossing the line from education into indoctrination. It's the way EVERYONE thinks, right? In one of the few times I agree with Golem he says:

- with the problem being that studies have shown this is far, far from the case. This then begs the question, how do you correct the problem? Start looking for Conservatives to hire so as to ideologiccally balance the scales in education? Because what we have currently is something where we have racial integration going on - but intellectual integration is not. You see the same thing happening in the public school system HERE although at least there are encouraging signs of many teachers willing to appear neutral to their students even though -

- meaning that when some teacher goes off the reservation and gets political, you're far more likely to see a LW teacher doing so than a RW one as there aren't many RW teachers out there to begin with. It's a matter of probability.

As for me personally, I've stated it elsewhere: As a (probable) role-model it is NOT my place to introduce my beliefs into the class as I risk indoctrinating the kids. That isn't my job and isn't my responsibility. I don't tell the kids who I've voted for or what party I'm a member of. I've written of my viewpoint on discussing politics before:

And then of course you have people who - well, see below:

I kept asking this poster for a link, and strangely enough he never provided one. I quickly found out why - the story he's peddling from the early 90's isn't quite what he's saying it is. The story in the LATimes HERE shows that the problem was about a few conservative Christians elected to the school board that were in favor of teaching Creationism, an abstinence-based sex-ed program, and turning down a 400K grant for meals for poor kids, the latter of which had me scratching my head. A school board turning down money?

Nothing here about snooping around spying on centrists or any of the other conspiracy theories he's discussing. Also nothing about infiltration unless you call being elected to the Board of Education "infiltration" - in which case I guess you could call EVERY election an infiltration. And given the overwhelming domination of the LW to the RW in education as I linked to above, his assertions are laughable.

Jake, I encourage you to keep on posting. Deconstructing your posts is becoming a highlight of my day. Also, the more you post, the worse you make your side look - I barely have to do ANY work when it comes to making the LW look bad when they have you on their side. Oh, and don't forget to respond to this post without quoting it as though you think I won't be notified and won't respond - It makes responding to your posts even better when you think you've slipped one by and you really haven't at all.

 

Nazi's were fanatical Christians that hated Jews cause they thought they killed Jesus....

 

True. I know someone who wants her local public high school to spend money on 'promoting' transgenderism, while the science faculties are lacking important technologies. How's that for biased BS!

 

Couldn't agree more. When you are ideological about your politics, you are as inappropriate in State business as the religionist.

The problem isn't that teachers have political preferences, it's that so many have crossed the line between the relatively inconsequential personal politics of the 20thC (when no one cared who you voted for), and the dogmatic ideological politics of the 21stC.

 

On the contrary, we're only JUST starting to recognise that focus and application have declined. That's where the problem lies, not in the testing. WE have become incapable of sustained focus and sustained application. The tests have remaining the same.

 

Are they promoting that people should want to be trangendered, or that transgendered persons should have equal rights. Because the first is biased, but the second is common sense, and only bigots and fascists would disagree.

 

"Only fascists and bigots" think it's not far more important to keep kids up to date with science and technology.

We could do this all day.

 

Nazism from the horse's ass:

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of
Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... "Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." Hitler's Table Talk” (Adolf Hitler, London, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1953).(p 6 & 7).

 

like Trump, Hitler said many conflicting things, but keep doing what he was doing regardless - the sad thing is many Christians supported Hitler as they hated the Jews so much - to them the ends justified the means

 

That is what Hitler said in public in 1928 when he still needed to convince Christians to vote for him. This is what he said in private to his National Socialist buddies at the dinner table:

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest
against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would
mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." “Hitler's Table Talk” (Adolf Hitler, London, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1953). p 43.