New Court Created for COVID Vaccine Injuries

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  1. phoenyx

    phoenyx Well-Known Member

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    I've long been against vaccines, for many reasons. I believe this new U.S. Court for Covid Vaccine Injuries is a particularly egregious example of the government working with the dark side of the pharmaceutical industry. Constructive feedback welcome.

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    STORY AT-A-GLANCE

    • A new COVID vaccine court, which includes compensation for covered “countermeasures” for COVID-19, such as a vaccine, has been established by the federal government
    • Not only will pharmaceutical companies developing and marketing COVID-19 vaccines be shielded from what should be their liability in the civil court system, but federal compensation will likely be difficult to obtain, as it is in the existing vaccine court created under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986
    • The establishment of a preemptive COVID vaccine court could be a sign that the government foresees many lawsuits related to this fast-tracked vaccine in the near future
    • The expansion of a federal vaccine court to include makers of experimental COVID-19 vaccines allows the irresponsible sale and marketing of vaccines that have been poorly tested and formulated because the manufacturers have no liability and “nothing to lose”

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    Full article here: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/10/20/coronavirus-vaccine-injury-court.aspx
     
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    Well at least impacted people won’t be up the creek without a paddle. Just up the creek with one. :)

    Jokes aside, in this political climate I didn’t see any other good option.
     
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    Big campaign donations talk, and the people can take a walk.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Thanks for this article. It took Big Pharma many years to get the government to give them immunity from liability by way of the 1986 National Childhood Vacine Injury Compensation Act, but just a short time to get the equivalent specifically for covid.

    This is more evidence that Plandemic is the best way to describe our current situation. Putting the tax payers on the hook for the reckless actions of Big Pharma is the American way!
     
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    Well, feel free to not take any vaccines, then.

    The fact for every reaction from vaccine jab, many thousands of people have no harmful problems except avoiding or reducing serious disease.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Dave,

    Some vaccines are useful and valuable, good medicine. I've expressed that thought before.

    Other vaccines are neither, and quite harmful. You seem unable to comprehend that people selling vaccines and opioids want more customers so that their profit line is greater.
     
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    I think everyone has to seriously consider the pros and the cons of vaccines. I'm obviously deep on the side that no vaccine is worth it, but there is a whole spectrum of positions on this, from my side to those that think that any approved vaccine should be fine because it was approved.
     
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    Kind of, but people can also push back against vaccines that they think aren't worth taking.
     
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    Agreed, sad to say, but it looks like Big Pharma has become increasingly powerful here.
     
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    It does seem to be coming together very, very quickly, doesn't it? ;-(
     
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    Interesting.

    In any event, I think it is a foregone conclusion that even a best case scenario for a safe, effective, vaccine (widely distributed) is Fall of Next Year.

    And, if everything goes perfect we may see a "return to normal" by spring 2022...
     
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    Lawyers need their stimulus too. All them class-action TV ads can't be cheap.
     
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    I should get into the COVID-19 vaccine racket. There are suckers born every minute. I’d make a killing! :winner:
     
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    So long as that remains the case.

    Trumps newest SC appointee supports mandatory vaccinations.

    I suppose the govt will be taxing us to pay for the injuries we get from the vaccines it forces us to take.

    ...but not the injuries we get from resisting being vaccinated.
     
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    Yes everyone should do their own research and make their own decisions. There are a lot of head scratchers when it comes to vaccinations mandated for school attendance etc. by states. For example, what justifies mandating tetanus vaccination? It isn’t an infectious disease which is the backbone of the justification for vaccine mandate dogma.

    Also, it seems to me we may be getting to the point we want to vaccinate for things that barely make sense, such as chicken pox. If we get to the point we want to push or mandate such things, we’d be better off controlling diet or exercise in the population. Heart disease and other lifestyle dependent preventable disease causes much more harm to individuals and society than chicken pox.
     
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    I don’t like the idea of being a beta tester. After a vaccine hits the market, I think I’ll wait a couple of years just to see how effective it is for other folk before I give it a shot.
     
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    No vaccine is ever going to be as effective as proper nutrition.
     
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    Lol!

    Tetanus can a terrible death, and is not transmitted person to person, and "proper nutrition" does not prevent it or cure it.

    These kinds of claims are simply ridiculous.
     
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    Found another news article concerning a Covid 19 vaccine trial:
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    Key points:
    • AstraZeneca shares turned negative after a Brazilian health authority, Anvisa, said a volunteer in its coronavirus vaccine study died.
    • The Federal University of Sao Paulo, which is helping coordinate late-stage trials in Brazil, separately said that the volunteer was Brazilian, according to Reuters.
    • The news comes as the Food and Drug Administration still has a late-stage clinical trial from AstraZeneca on hold in the United States.
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    Full article: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/21/ast...ys-volunteer-in-covid-vaccine-study-dies.html
     
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    Be sure to take an extra helping of Trump and Bill Gates hackjob vaccine.
    :alcoholic:
     
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    And Congress even more blatantly complicit in the crimes of Pharma.

    DOJ has recently settled with Purdue and Sackler Family, but not one single person will go to jail. We are fascists.
     
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    Your position is ridiculous. Twenty-five percent of deaths from tetanus in the US between 2009-2017 were associated with diabetes. This is from CDC data. Ninety five percent of diabetes in the US is type 2, predominantly caused by poor diet and lack of exercise.

    Another at risk group for tetanus are immunocompromised individuals. Poor diet is one major cause of underdeveloped immune systems world wide.

    There is also some evidence Vitamin C is protective and highly therapeutic in relation to tetanus.

    All evidence we have points to nutrition as being possibly the most important factor in infectious disease prevention and outcomes after infection. In fact, efficacy of vaccines is directly affected by nutrition and general health related to diet.
     
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    While proper nutrition may not be the answer per se, properly cleansing wounds should be. Furthermore, there is something else that has recently been rediscovered regarding tetanus. Some in the audience may be interested to read the following from Tetyana Obukhanych's kindle book, Vaccine Illusion. Tetyana has a Phd in immunology.

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    Natural Immunity to Tetanus - What a Surprise!

    In addition to the von Behring-Kitasato's anti-serum therapy, which focused mainly on tetanus treatment, another line of investigation by a group of not-as-famous researchers addressed natural immunity to tetanus. These experiments were published in a prestigious medical journal, the Journal of Experimental Medicine in the 1920s. Until the age of digitization, however, these publications were collecting dust in the basements of medical schools, and there was no practical way of locating them. After digitization of tehse old archival publications, I was finally able to retrieve them online.

    I was astounded by what I found. These experiments demonstrate how natural immunity to tetanus can be acquired. Furthermore, they show that natural immunity to tetanus has nothing to do with antibodies to the toxin itself.

    First, let us take a look at the properties of C. tetani, the bacteria that produces the infamous tetanus toxin. There are many different C. tetani strains, but they all produce the same type of toxin called tetanospasmin. If this toxin gets into the central nervous system of animals or humans, it inhibits the activity of the neurotransmitter gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA). This inhibition results in the symptoms of the tetanus disease: rigid muscular spams, such as lockjaw, sardonic smile, and general convulsions.

    C. tetani bacteria normally live in animal manure and intestines without causing the tetanus disease. C. tetani bacteria require anaerobic conditions to be active - that is, they cannot function in the presence of oxygen. Upon contact with oxygen from the air, they turn into very resilient and long-lived spores. Spores themselves are inactive and do not produce any toxin. However, when anaerobic conditions are present again, spores germinate back into bacterial cells capable of toxin production.

    The risk for tetanus comes from wounds that have been contaminated with C. tetani spores or bacteria, not from the proverbial rusty nail. If not well maintained, such wounds create anaerobic conditions that allow C. tetani spores to germinate and start producing the toxin. If the toxin molecules are able to get through the peripheral nerves into the central nervous system, the symptoms of tetanus ensue. However, this is not the whole story.

    In the experiments documented in the 1920s, researchers were able to establish the state of tetanus immunity in guinea pigs such that even after purposefully introducing tetanus spores into poorly maintained wounds, immune animals did not develop tetanus symptoms, while control animals did (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19869129/). Natural immunity to tetanus was established by feeding the animals food containing C. tetani spores. Natural immunity, however, was strain specific, as the animals would still get tetanus symptoms if their wounds were contaminated with spores from a mismatched strain.

    After having C. tetani spores in their diet for six months, animals developed natural antibodies to these spores (agglutinins) and some animals also developed anti-toxin antibodies. However, the levels of anti-toxin antibodies, even when present, did not correlate with natural immunity to tetanus the way strain-specific agglutinins did. Other papers reported that humans too could harbor C. tetani spores in their stool and produce agglutinins to C. tetani and anti-toxin antibodies without any history of tetanus (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19868740/ and https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19868669/).

    Because this important line of research on tetanus has for a long time disappeared from the radars of immunology, we failed to learn that natural immunity to tetanus is possible. Instead, we were left with a spurious idea that the toxoid-based vaccine is our only salvation.
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    Wow!

    So by good nutrition, wound care, and taking vitamin C, I had no need for a Tetanus after a squirrel was mad and bit me, drove a nail into my foot another time, and a few other wounds, I didn't need to waste that $12 tetanus shot every 5 or 10 years!

    Oh, yeah, I guess would need to do a series of all the different strains of potential tetanus to build those immunities, and of course make sure I had any comprised immunities - this is from studying Tetyana Obukhanych's book - although her practice of not documenting any of her references makes it hard to learn anything - but we can just dream, right? Maybe when someone is doubled over with muscle spasms that is breaking their bones and unable to breath, someone could read these ways to be healthy without vaccines!

    Or maybe the idea of her having all the possible sources of tetanus infection, animal or mineral, and we could be safe!

    Well, in any case, avoiding vaccines is the way!
     
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    However did the human race survive for all these tens of thousands of years before vaccines, I wonder? :cynic:
     

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