New Crusade 2 - War Against Islam

Tell us the Christian denominations that still uses the OT law.

 

You're going nowhere with this point. Just because slavery existed for many years before Islam did, that doesn't mean Islam does not cause slavery. Of course, it causes slavery, because it is accepted (if not advocated) in the Koran, which Muslims ludicrously believe to be the word of God. And the result of that ? >> I just told you in Post # 120, >> "Whoever does it, at any time in history, it is DUE TO THEM, when they're doing it, and no one since ancient times, has done it more than Muslims have."

 

FALSE! You're spinning the subject. Those who act as you describe, are not Christians. Doesn't matter what they call themselves.

 

1 Timothy 6:1-2

New International Version (NIV)


6 All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered. 2 Those who have believing masters should not show them disrespect just because they are fellow believers. Instead, they should serve them even better because their masters are dear to them as fellow believers and are devoted to the welfare[a] of their slaves.

 

Looks like the NIVers may have screwed up. They talk about "slavery". They made that up. The previous respected Bible (King James version) makes NO MENTION OF SLAVERY. Here is its quote of 1 Timothy 6:1-2 >> "Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and [his] doctrine be not blasphemed."

1Ti 6:2 "And they that have believing masters, let them not despise [them], because they are brethren; but rather do [them] service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort."

Big difference between a "servant" and a "slave". If Muslims had only engaged in servantism (instead of slavery), that wouldn't be called "slavery". It would be called Capitalism. Millions of people are employed as servants in America, 100% legally. Limousine Chauffeurs, butlers, maids, etc.

And the word "yoke" ? Here is the Wiktionary definition >> "(figuratively) A burden; something which represses or restrains a person." Having been an employee for decades I can assure you, working for bosses does that 40 hours a week.

Also, the Bible passage really is just affirming the "turn the other cheek" principle, as well as the general Christian principle of love for all mankind.

Nice try, though.

 

so witch is the correct translation?

 

King James version.

 

Tell us which Christians still obey the OT law.

 

As it does as well in the bible. Religion means nothing. And for you claim no one has done it more then Muslims. A lie. Europe since the fall of Rome, had serfdom, only a slightly better form of slavery, if you include Russia, until 1860.

 

Now you're making a fool out of yourself. You can only stretch things so far. You need to learn that.

 

One of the funniest things about this is that those that are most screaming for "military action" have never served a day in the military in their entire lives.

Do not take them seriously, very few of us do. We know they are the ignorant inbred racists that they are.

 

But I have served in the military.

Those who oppose us are ingnorant inbred racists.

 

The free grape koolaid.

 

Actually, when Kadihja wife of Mohammed was still alive the Kabaa was open to Muslims, Jews and Christians it was only after her death that Mohammed started to change to become extremist he started to banned Christians and Jews from the Kabaa, second he declare war on them. And when Muslims seize control of the Holy land they started to do the same thing denying Christians access to the Holy Land, and attacking Christians pilgrims that is when the Templar Knights were born 9 Knights vowed to protect Christian pilgrims against Muslim raiders and that 9 knights grew to a thousand.

 

Concerning the OP's Title for the thread,

Yeah, and we have an islamofascist dictator and tyrant, an enemy and a threat in the friggin White House!

 

You forgot to mention that he is also an atheist, Communist fan of Hitler who hates mom and her apple pie.

 

The southern Baptist convention uses old testament scripture as well as new to determine its positions on issues that’s a start ill look for info on more churches

 

Dusty,
If any so-called Christian does not use what is referred to as the Old Testament but is actually part of the Taurat (Torah) than they are remiss and are not following what Isa (Jesus) frequently cited and stated that He did not come to eliminate or replace The Law (what is in the Taurat, especially in Leviticus or the Book of Levi) but to fulfill said Law. So if any states that he or she does not accept the Taurat, than they are not to be listened to nor followed.

 

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". The old testament would have required she be stoned to death. Jesus was about reform not strict interpretation of the laws. This was his way of saying either we stone her to death, or she can receive a more reasonable punishment. So we believe in the Old Testament, we don't follow it to the letter.

This is something Muslims could learn from. Instead of dressing their women in a sheet from head to toe, instead of killing Jews and Christians because the Koran tells them to, they should reconsider what was meant by their texts at the time and how to more peacefully and reasonably apply them today.

 

the Muslims who don’t make women dress form head to toe who don’t kill any 1 already you mean

 

Ahem, excuse you PatriotNews but I happen to be in a position to criticize people who portray themselves as mature and sophisticated in the area of behavior, thinking and actions. I also notice that many of the same type of people who belong to the categorization and classification as DustyRhodes will always come to each other's defense even when what is being defended is indefensible. My advise to you is to tread carefully when confronting others whom you think are beneath you.

 

Ahem, excuse you stig42,
I do not force women to dress as civilized and dignified being as they are. It is completely up to them as to whether or not they will have self respect and reflect such attitude in their manners of dress, speech and other behaviors. Do not become angry at others because your society, including the religions promoted by said society, no longer cares to have decency, dignity and promote self respect.

 

aww sorry said that wrong

how about

the Muslims other than the ones who don’t make women dress form head to toe who don’t kill any 1 already you mean

 

Of course men or women can dress with self-respect decency and dignity without dressing in ways you would necessarily approve of
All these things being subjective

 

"One cannot achieve peace by resolving with the sword" Anonymous. This quote sums up what I wish to say about your argument. You cannot advertise peace so strongly, yet at the same time advocate war and violence to achieve peace! Sure, if we're attacked war then is advocated for by the simple meaning of peace, and (whether anyone wants to admit it) revenge. However, we can't simply invade their country, and force them to convert. This does not lead to peace, it leads to false faith and increased revolution rates. War should always be the last option, and in our modernized society, it should only be for defense of ourselves or innocent people. However converting radical Muslims forcefully to Christianity is not necessary, and just creates radical Christians.