New poll: Majority of Americans oppose Supreme Court ruling on abortion

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Fine then we agree. All Federal Law should be eliminated. This includes the 2nd Amendment.

 

The office of the President certainly must go. This is my biggest motivator:

No one like trump can ever be allowed to control US military power again. The day he was elected the US became too dangerous to exist. No one man can have that power again - not now that we know someone like trump can be elected.

 

What the SC did was to make a technical decision. It really wasn’t based upon emotion, religion, or public opinion. This is as it should be.

Basically, they were saying that the Roe decision was like the court declared that 2+2=5 because they really, really, REALLY wanted 2+2 to equal 5 with all their heart and soul, along with a significant percentage of the public.

The present Court is just essentially saying, “Nope. Sorry, but 2+2=4.”

It’s a technical decision.

The SC is not the place to legislate our rights. I know you know that.

 

For me, always focused on the midterms, the question is will the overturning of ROE by the SCOTUS change any minds as to who they’ll vote for in the midterms? This is what I call soft support. Here’s the example, Yes, I’m Pro-Choice, I rather ROE wasn’t overturned, but I have other issues much more important to me in deciding who I’ll vote for come November than Abortion.

Here is the generic congressional ballot from both RCP and 538 for you to compare pre-SCOTUS overturning ROE on the 23rd to today.

23 June 2022 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 44.3-41.5, Republican, 538 averages 44.8-42.5 Republican

28 June 2022 Generic congressional ballot, RCP averages 44.8-42.3, Republican, 538 averages 44.8-42.7 Republican

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/

There hasn’t been much change. I expected more of a change than has occurred. Perhaps with more time, another week or two, that more of a change might emerge. Then again, maybe not. I suspect that over the last 50 years, those who are avid pro-choice, who vote pro-choice have all become democrats and those avid pro-life, who vote pro-life, have all become Republicans. What’s left is soft support one way or the other which usually doesn’t enter the thought process in how someone determines who to vote for. Simply put, abortion seems already baked into the equation. At least going by the numbers one week after the landmark decision. Plenty of time left for this to change, I doubt that it will.

 

Well this is the beauty behind the whole thing with the supreme Court did was allowed States to make the call. So if you want abortion to be legal in your state you vote for people that say they're going to make it legal and life's just back to normal as it always was.

Even if they disagree with the court they can make it into a right in their state and if it's a majority then probably all states will do that unless we're talking about a majority of people in California Illinois and New York.

 

Good for you. If only the SCOTUS had followed your example . . .

 

The Constitution doesn't say anything about a lot of specifics, mostly because today's issue didn't exist back then.

This is about two things:

1. The 4th Amendment's guarantee of our right to privacy.

2. Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, which is supposed to prevent a state from violating athe rights as guaranteed in the rest of the Constitution and all of its amendments.

With this ruling, the SCOTUS has stripped those rights from women of childbearing age. How is that anything short of tyranny?

 

ROFLMAO !

Women have been aborting unwanted pregnancies for thousands of years, the evidence going back to at least 1550 BCE. (That's more than 3,500 years of recorded history.)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion#:~:text=The first recorded evidence of,early cultures were non-surgical.

The right seems to think that modern feminists invented the process.

In the age of information, ignorance on any topic is a choice.

 

hmm

a right protected by the Constitution is now a bad thing...............................

Never will I understand the thought process of Democrat voters

 

Ohhhh...................what state is forcing folks to get an abortion ?

That would be the correct comparison

given your fail; you walked right into agreeing that vaccine mandates are unconstitutional

if the state can force an injection upon me, then they can force any medical procedure upon me

 

It is a fairly easy comparison — should the state be allowed to make medical decisions for others (even if is to save the life of another). You are simultaneously arguing they should be allowed and they shouldn’t be allowed.

Which is it?

 

umm, you are trying to compare having a state force a procedure upon a body. No state is forcing abortions upon people. They were however forcing vaccines until it rightfully got slapped down

 

ask folks if they support forcing rape victim to have their rapists babies; see what those results show

 

It doesn't matter what the majority of US believes. It's a matter of what the citizens in individual states believe.

 

exactly, if we can force women to give birth to their rapists baby, we can force people to get a vaccine, donate blood, ect....

 

And explained why your legal knowledge lacks. Thanks for playing I'll stick withe the hundreds of years of combined experience.

 

True...
And of course, some people don't care about what the "Law" says...
The "Laws are made to be Broken" crowd...

 

Concession accepted

 

I think the SCOTUS is more suited to make that call than sleep monster from PF

 

And you still didn’t answer the question. Here, I’ll repeat it so you can dodge it again.

“should the state be allowed to make medical decisions for others (even if is to save the life of another)”

 

So you feel the individual states should be allowed to make medical decisions for Americans? Should they be able to ban all religious expression? Should states be allowed to ban the sale of bullets?

 

What? Who told you that?

Pease, please, educate yourself. Or let me educate you.

https://www.americanprogress.org/ar...-history-of-abortion-and-contraception-right/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10297561/

SMH.

 

Do you not see the glaring doublethink of "protecting life" in the womb and facilitating death outside it?
Your Constitution has created this illogical and self contradictory situation. Clearly someone needs to decide just what the country values.
Or are you protecting unborn children so you can mow them down like target practice in their classrooms à few years later?

 

Ummmm…..that poster is as far “left” and pro “choice” as you can get.

I already straightened her out…

I agree there is a LOT of ignorance, but it isn’t necessarily on the “right”.