New Poll Shows 20-Point Increase in Support for Impeachment Inquiry—Among Republicans

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When has the drive to impeach Trump started? Please indulge me, and pick the correct answer:

    3 weeks ago
    6 months ago
    1 year ago
    Before Trump was even elected.
     
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    So, forgetting the trolling content in your posting, the official impeachment inquiry was launched on 09/24/2019.
    It was all over the news, live on TV, also in a formal declaration from the office of the Speaker of the US House of Representatives.

    So, those are the facts.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem to know a LOT, please enlighten me - without full house vote to start the impeachment inquiry, do the House Republicans have the right to subpoena documents and witnesses?

    With full house vote to start the impeachment inquiry, will the House Republicans have to right to subpoena documents and witnesses?
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    The easiest prediction you've ever made!

    I asked this question of my crystal ball and it said to me: why the **** you even asking, this one is a no brainer?!?!?!
     
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  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, forgetting the pompousness of your post, you're not answering my question; it is OK if you do not want to, I understand that.

    The question was - when has the drive to impeach Trump started? I did not axe you "when the official impeachment inquiry was launched"

    Can you handle this?
     
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    The answer to both is "No, unless the House Democrats grant special authorization."
     
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    Yes, I do know a great deal about this. Let me enlighten you: there is no passage in the Constitution that says there must be a full house vote to start an impeachment inquiry. That inquiry has already begun, regardless whether you like it or not. Just because there was a full House vote to begin an impeachment inquiry in 1998 (it was a formality, not a requirement) does not mean there must be one in 2019. That is entirely within Nancy Pelosi's pervue.

    The party with the majority in the House decides who is subpoena'd and when. Those are the House rules themselves. But the committees themselves, when they subpoena material, make sure that both sides have all of the documents. The inquiry itself is therefore bipartisan, regardless whether one side is bitching and moaning about it or not. And by the way, committee aides are from both parties and work together all the time.

    Not only that, you, like so many others, are somehow not understanding that the impeachment inquiry is not, I repeat, is not a trial. The trial happens in the Senate, where both sides can of course call witnesses and put forth all the information relevant to the case(s) that they desire.

    Education is an effective weapon against ignorance and the nasty hatred that comes from such.
     
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    And you also understand that the remedy for the House is to find contempt of congress and refer the missing witnesses to the DOJ for action.
     
  9. dairyair

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    I can't help what you believe. I doubt you see all my posts. So, I'm not worried about an anonymous person's belief.
    The 'one guy' maybe speaking about that system, is doing nothing about it. All that one person is doing, is looking out for himself. He only panders to 35% of the country. Is not doing anything productive for the other 65%.

    As for the media, their source of revenue comes from selling advertisement. They will report, at least the 24/7 click bait media, what their audience wants.
    You don't think faux news station does the same?


    If he speaks out against the system, how come it hasn't changed at all.
    How come the entire R party is throwing unfettered support behind this dude? Because the system isn't being changed? Yep.
     
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    United We Stand, Divided we Fall.
    And a falling we have been doing. For a few decades now.

    But in reality, there's always been division. It's now amped up. White men against the world. Not all, white men.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    One of the reasons, IMO, the 2 corrupt party system keeps sheeple pointing fingers and dividing the people.
    Unification of people would ruing their dance.
     
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    They'll have the same standing a defense attorney has at a grand jury proceeding - absolutely none. Deal with it, like Clinton did.
     
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    Umm no thats not true..

    If anything it's the lying, leftist , deconstructionists against white men.

    White men are just trying to put bread on the table for their families.
     
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    So do women, and men of other color. But for some reason, some white men think that should not happen.
     
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    I never said they were at trial. Nancy is not permitting the minority any power during this non impeachment inquiry. She is doing this so only one side of the issue gets out.
     
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    Congress currently sits at a 20% approval. Doesn’t that mean 80% should want change? No more retirements to fund. Laws passed by those officials become laws they have to live by once their temporary assignment is over. I like it.
     
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    The minority party is always at a disadvantage in any type of inquiry. The never have subpoena power. The Democrats were complaining about the same thing a few years back when the GOP had control over all of the committees and refused to subpoena witnesses and documents they wanted. That’s how it works.
     
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    Like Newt "I never had a secretary I didn't try to bone" Gingrich did to Clinton?

    I wonder if Miss Lindsey appreciates the irony?
     
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    Something like that. The Republican members of the committees will not be allowed to call or subpoena any witness, deemed supportive to the President.
     
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    We are talking about what is considered normal. Looking at previous impeachment inquiries there have been certain things done in the name of fairness. You are all correct in that Nancy doesn’t have to allow the Republican any help, and it appears that is the path she has chosen. Only history will tell us if breaking from the norm was a good call or not.
     
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    Just like it went down with Clinton. Is your DayGlo Messiah such a snowflake that he can't deal with what Clinton did? Sad!
     
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    Polling says a majority of Americans are more than willing to say it's a good call, and want the Tangerine Shitgibbon gone.
     
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    When Nixon and Clinton impeachment’s, house rules did not provide the house committee chair with subpoena power. A vote was needed. Today house rules give unilateral subpoena power, eliminating the need for the majority to require a vote. In the past two, the majority has agreed to provide the minority subpoena power and the Republicans are hopeful Nancy would continue that gesture.

    Nancy will not impeach Trump until she knows she can defend her action in court where the President’s team can call whoever they wish for testimony. Nancy is trying make this inquiry last until 2020 hoping the voters put Trump out and for now she can make accusations without having to prove anything she says is true.
     
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    The media overwhelms the public with anti Trump news. If all I did was listen to the news I’d be calling for his impeachment too.
     
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    Clinton lied under oath. Yes, No? Is Trump convicted of lying under oath yet? Well then, keep trying to convict him :hug:

    And yes, Trump can take it; he thrives in chaos. Hell, he is chaos.
     
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