New Rules of engagement between Syria and Israel, as Russia changes its position

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    https://ejmagnier.com/2018/12/14/ne...ia-and-israel-as-russia-changes-its-position/

    And so, there comes a new stage in the redistribution of the world.

    If you look at the past 10 years, for example, what will we see?

    Over the past ten years, Moscow has beaten Washington in three such local campaigns:

    1. Moscow struck a knockout blow in the Caucasus in August 2008, in a matter of hours, literally dispersed the Georgian army and put the Georgian state carefully created by the United States on the brink of collapse. In addition, she did not finish it off, not allowing the United States to transfer the former asset that had become a liability to the Russian balance sheet.
    At the same time, Russia did not violate any international law. Even the commission of Russophobes from the EU has established that not Russia, but Georgia started the war.

    2. Russia promptly transferred Crimea to Russian jurisdiction in 2014, depriving the United States of the main planned dividend from the Ukrainian putsch and turning Ukraine into a liability as a strategic asset of Ukraine (and so that the United States didn’t even immediately realize, and for another two years, it was pointless to pump resources into the Ukrainian black hole).
    At the same time, Russia has not violated a single international law. Politicians and Western media can say anything, but no one can really show a violation of international law.

    3. Russia completes the Syrian campaign not just with tactical success in keeping Assad in power and blocking the idea of the Qatari-Saudi gas pipeline to the Mediterranean (which would seriously compete with Russia on the European gas market, disrupting the Russian-European political and economic convergence) , but the strategic ousting of the United States from the Greater Middle East and occupying the leading place there.
    At the same time, Russia has not violated a single international law.

    What do you think about it?
     
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    I admire the Russian method in these cases. I hope it will contribute to peace in Syria.

    The criminal government in Tel Aviv should be punished for its crimes.
     
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    The power in Israel belongs to the Zionists. And as we know, it was Zionism who preached the theory of racial superiority. In other words, Zionism is the progenitor of fascism. If you read the Talmud, then "Mein Kampf" will seem to you a children's book in comparison with misanthropic quotations from the Talmud.
    I could quotes from the Talmud, but the moderators do not allow this.
     
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    LOL....vatniks will not "tolerate" any attacks on its personnel!!! Will retaliate against Isreal....LOL....sure they will, 500+ Wagner's were turned into chopped liver last Feb.

    Crickets from the Kremlin.....and crickets it will be if Isreal takes out Syrian targets....whether russki personnel there or not.

    If Isreal wanted to.....Assads head would be floating in Bibis goldfish tank, and still crickets from Muscovia.....:))!
     
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    An eye for an eye, I think Israel would understand this quite well. I do admire this move by Russia, it's restrained yet effective, and gives the Syrian government some teeth in dealing with Israel. This is a good decision by Russia imo who as intermediary between Iran and Israel are setting the rules of engagement.
     
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    I highly doubt Israel gives one s**t.
     
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    Vladimir Putin has bent over backwards to appease Israel's security concerns, and it wasn't appreciated. Maybe Israel saw it as weakness and a fear of the US, who knows?

    As an example, to pacify Israel's fear of Iran in Syria, Russia had the Iranians move a distance away from the border with Israel. They even established 15 guard posts along the border of the Golan Heights with Chechnyan militias and at no small expense to them. Yet Netanyahu continued to demand that Iran leave Syria.

    As Putin once said if you keep pushing a spring, eventually it will spring back. Anybody who messes with Russia has to be a fool.
     
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    I like your tantrum.
     
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    I'm not rooting for Russia, but plain human decency. Moscow in contrast to my own government has furthered its interests without going against international law, or giving support to perpetrators of human rights such as: Nazis, terrorists or mafia criminals. While we on the other hand... :roll:
     
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    Lol....a tantrum is using bold letters....mine is basically a fair assessment!
     
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    Ordinarily I would treat this report with some caution but Magnier is extremely well informed in Middle East matters.

    Israel made a gigantic mistake in using that Russian IL-20 as cover to avoid Syrian air defence missiles and the price is now being exacted.

    Clearly the posting of Russian officers at every Syrian and Iranian military base is equally directed at the US, France and UK too - as any future direct strikes by any of these nations using cruise or other missiles will be met with counter-strikes against the launchers. That means war.

    It seems to me that the Bear has finally lost its patience.
     
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    Go easy on Zoom, Destroyer.

    He was born and bred using anti-Russian hair tonic and is too old to change now. :machinegun:
     
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    Lol...not a case of "going easy", it's a fair assessment, but in your case, I understand , and the kremlin kool aid tastes great on your end.

    I put accounts such as Destroyer....Jeanette, ....purely for entertainment purposes. :)).Just ramblings of some delusional psychotics.
     
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    Sure....I'm sure the Isrealis are crapping their pants!!

    At least one admission was made about this also being about an energy pipeline.....I've mentioned that about 300+ postings back...lol.

    Putinka could care less about Assad.....more like so no other pipe gets built.....Assad gets ousted, and the knives could be out for the Kremlin rug rat:)).
     
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    I think so too! Vladimir Putin said the 15 men that were killed in the airplane were experts in espionage and in other fields, so it was a real loss to them. This of course bodes the question, was it done deliberately by Israel?

    Putin considers disloyalty and treachery the unforgivable offense. When he forgave Erdogan for the shoot down of the Russian jet, it was probably because the order came from his Prime Minister Devotoglu and not from Erdogan. As for Devotoglu, I haven't seen him around since then.
     
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    I don't understand you American's fascination with cool aid. In the UK we don't even sell it - an intelligent move imo. But then we're a temperate climate I suppose.

    Speaking of psychologically impaired Zoom, your Shadow Projection about Russia is clear for everyone to see.

    Carl Jung explained it this way:

    "It is the face of our own shadow that glowers at us across the Iron Curtain." (Man and his Symbols, CW 18, page 85)

    And

    "The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge." (Aion, CW 9 part II, page 14)

    And finally

    "A man who is unconscious of himself acts in a blind, instinctive way and is in addition fooled by all the illusions that arise when he sees everything that he is not conscious of in himself coming to meet him from outside as projections upon his neighbour." (Alchemical Studies, CW 13 page 335).

    One could be forgiven for thinking that one of the world's foremost psychologists was specifically writing about you Zoom...
     
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    Interestingly, as you know they haven't tried breaching Syrian airspace since the S-300 integrated system became operative - let alone since Putin posted Russian officers to Syrian and Iranian military units.
     
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    Not to mention the S-400 systems ;-)

    Anyway ...

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    It's a slang we use stripey....yes, something you wouldn't understand, and I wont hold against you.



    Yes...im sure Carl Jung specifically singled me out as a prime example...lol, now you're trying to emulate a psychologist....I'm touched.
    Like i said stripester....keep drinking the cool aid....:)).
     
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    I'm still waiting for the sources/links of those 100+ tomahawks that were shot down by those advanced S300s back in April2018.

    Weren't the tomahawks 30 yrs old or something like that:))?
     
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    Apart from the fact that until today I still wait for the proof that the American Patriots really shot down as many Iraqi Scuds as was claimed ...

    Until today it is not even known which of the S-300 versions is in use ... the first one is older as the Tomahawk ... and the 3 last ones have already shot down Tomahawks in Iraq.
    And there are now also S-400 batteries and before you should question the capabilities of this system, consider this better!
     
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    Emulate Zoom? Not me. I spent years studying under a leading Jungian analyst. Trust me, I know a shadow projection when I see it - and you got it. But then I think you know that too.

    No hard feelings though. You're an okay guy otherwise.
     
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    If memory serves the Russian only sent the S-300's to Syria after the NATO tag-team ****-up by the Israel pilot caused that IL-20 to be shot down - and that was only September 2018.

    What do they say about Pride going before a fall?

    The Israeli shoot-dow was the game changer, following by Russia deploying military officers to every single Syrian and Iranian military base to deter any further NATO attacks. All this has contributed to Trump's announcement today that he's pulling all US troops out of Syria.
     
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    Yes stripey....sure you did, just like some other members here claim to be "engineers", "scientists", "neurosurgeons", and the like.

    Uh no stripey....I'm far from some ....shadow projection. And yeah, seems trolls like yourself are easy to spot, no hard feelings?
     

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