News covers fake girlfriend, but not 500,000 marching on DC.

I've had 6 babies, Love. Each was a significant event.

 

quite true, however she can be supported in what ever decision she decides instead of adding further torment to her

True, but the consequences of the rape and conception CAN be undone.

Again correct, though its is also a pure Empirical FACT that the majority of the world population support abortion .. as i said before if they did not it would be illegal.

Answering you assertion that "And her anger is directed at a part of herself as well as an innocent."

Sorry, didn't get what you were meaning in your previous reply .. no she can't "abort" HIV, thankfully though she can abort an unwanted fetus.

not just mine, but a fairly large proportion of the medical community as well.
I don't argue the meaning of independent, I stick to the dictionary meaning.
1.Not influenced or controlled by others in matters of opinion, conduct, etc.; thinking or acting for oneself: an independent thinker.
2. not subject to another's authority or jurisdiction; autonomous; free: an independent businessman.
3. not influenced by the thought or action of others: independent research.
4. not dependent; not depending or contingent upon something else for existence, operation, etc.
5. not relying on another or others for aid or support.

I've bolded the one most relevant to this debate.

Does the amount matter, in law every possibility needs to be tried to be accounted for.

Only when the biological parents abusers.

http://www.life123.com/parenting/ad...opted-children-know-their-birth-parents.shtml

 

. Would you support ANY decision she makes.....ANY. Really???

no. You cannot unring that bell.

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Might makes right? Is that your position?

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Are YOU independent? I'm not. I need all sorts of things/ entities for my survival.

yes....if 55 million lives are sacrificed so that one special needs person is not made to feel a period of 9 month discomfort. Yes...

did you read your Op Ed piece? .???????

 

Well, aren't you special, Loveypoopoobear!

This may shock you but your situation isn't everyone's...it has no bearing on what other's choose to do, you are NOT the center of the universe, ...

 

You asked (*)(*)(*s)(*h)(*)(*)(*).

 

Gosh, loveypoo, that's hard to read.....

 

I don't suffer fools well. It's a fault of mine, admittedly.

 

Squirming out again...tsk, tsk....


BTW, do you talk like that around your 6 baaaaaaaabies...??

 

You're not worth it, child.

 

Ok, grannieloveypoodarling......you sure can't address the issues can you?

 

Not yours, no.

 

now you are clutching at straws, you know very well what I meant here . .especially as this is an abortion forum and we are debating that subject.

You can abort the unwanted fetus . that bell CAN be unrung.

Not at all, it is the position of a democratic society .. majority rule.

well lets see,
I can breath in air to extract oxygen to infuse my blood .. a fetus can't
I can independently intake food in order to fuel the processes of my bodily functions .. a fetus can't
I can form conceptual ideas based on stimuli, make informed decisions, decode nerve impulses that imply pain .. a fetus can't
I can consciously control my body movements .. a fetus can't
I can regulate my body temperature . .a fetus can't

do you want me to continue?

then you are happy to discriminate against the minority via law

Yes I did.

 

It's a relevant question. She is deciding to kill a human because she was raped. Why is that okay?

It doesn't change the fact she was raped. It doesn't change the fact she conceived. It cannot be unrung. Killing the fetus changes NOTHING about the crime done to her.

Oh dear....that is not the case here though. The majority does not want unfettered abortion.

Why is that relevant? A fetus can survive completely encased in fluid and you cannot. why does what you can do matter? Furthermore...you didn't address the substance: No one is completely independent--it is just your arbitrary "what I can do"s that you distinguish yourself worthy and other humans not worthy of life.

Seems you do the same when you decide life in the womb (a minority) deserves no legal protection. I'm not asking to extinguish life--I'm asking 9 months of caretaking.

Then you noticed it didn't support what you claimed it was saying. Why offer that?

 

Because it is her right

True, but it does change the fact that she doesn't have to have 9 months of additional torment.

Oh so wrong - 36% ( a rise of 13% since 2009) support abortion in ALL cases, against 17% ( a fall of 4% since 2009) who want it illegal in all cases, that is a clear majority.

http://health.usnews.com/health-new...-show-rising-support-for-abortion-rights-poll

read the rest of the article, it pretty much states clearly that the majority of Americans support abortion in some form.

Yes I can, if I have the same type of connection as the fetus does, supplying me with food and air ... cut that connection and see how long the fetus can survive for.
Substance of what, everything I posted is a fact .. can you deny that.
There are many levels to independence, a fetus has none of them .. it has no independence what so ever.
I make no decisions as to what is worthy of life at all, that is the woman's decision .. something you people want to take away from her and turn over to the state.

In order to be discriminated against you first have to capable of knowing that discrimination, a fetus doesn't .. the only discrimination going on is that against women making a choice about how their body should be used.
Well when a few homeless move into your house "only for nine months" you can accept it, its only nine months of "caretaking"

to the most it does support what I said, it doesn't actually state that details are kept closed, just that it is recommended they are for certain cases.