News Limited Attempting To Rig The Election

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  1. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Views with blatant personal financial interests isn't my ideaolgy......especially at the cost of a nation of people. Greed and hunger for power and control is a sickness of the mind.

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    Views with blatant personal financial interests isn't my ideaolgy......especially at the cost of a nation of people. Greed and hunger for power and control is a sickness of the mind.

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    Views with blatant personal financial interests isn't my ideaolgy......especially at the cost of a nation of people. Greed and hunger for power and control is a sickness of the mind.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Nah, it`s just a copout to hide fom the fact that Aussies are now awake to the ALP BS factory.Just another delusional way to b lame someone else for their own uselessness.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, it exposes superficially lazy numbskulls who enjoy the bliss of ignorance!
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Sort of like "there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead"?
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And she held firm with her word! She simply added a fixed price period prior to the ETS.
     
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    Not really....
    Whatever happened to the days when reporters reported facts, not opinions?
    We have bloggers given whole pages in the print media every day to express their, or management's, opinion.
    Sadly, these opinions are always expressed as being fact.
    The Murdoch press appears to run two bloggers for each reporter; and those 'reporters' seem to put more editorial content into their pieces than story.

    I am not, and never have been, in favour of media censorship.

    If wanting truth in print is classified as calling for censorship, then so be it.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Just shows how we need to be aware that everything Julia Gillard says needs to be treated with caution and skeptacism. Look for the sly angles, dodgy traps, keep an eye out for slimey distortions and deceptions, but then keep in mind how she will lie straight to your face too.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, a great example of how the mainstream media and fony have successfully raped people's minds. Ya gotta learn to use the metaphorical pepper spray dude, otherwise they'll rape ya every time!
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Gotta use the BS filter when listening Gillard or Swan, but then you are left with silence.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fony has really violated peoples minds and left them emotionally vulnerable! Pepper spray him before he takes your soul and livelihood!
     
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    Do you actually intend to provide something to debate? OR is this site simply becoming the best place for you to insult people?

    You began this thread and to date I still see no support for your premise, I have seen no actual real debate of any issues from you. You just pass through occasionally and insult people...

    I suppose your consistency is noted, provide nothing, debate nothing and simply insult all around who do not follow your deluded thoughts of how the world should run.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know the truth about that and can carry on all you like. My statement remains valid regarding how fony attempts to hoodwink people. Crying wont help ya buddy!
     
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    So you still have nothing... Perhaps some examples? No... The lack of credible sources and points are astounding. Perhaps you could objectively demonstrate your claim?...LOL … no again the silence of substance is deafening.

    Again I suppose your consistency is noted, provide nothing, debate nothing and simply insult all around who do not follow your deluded thoughts of how the world should run.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not insulting anyone, it is up to you if you want to wear it. I'm making legitimate comments about fony and his real intentions. Any insults you may perceive are no different to others from the extreme right!
     
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    LOL... Now you want to proclaim you do not know what an insult is?... LOL

    Legitimate comments about Abott? LOL… you could make them legitimate by providing a reference of your claims. But no, all you can do is throw your opinion around as fact. As your opinion is worthless, maybe it would be more important for you to provide something… But again the silence is deafening as you provide nothing.

    Again I wear your attempts at insults as a badge of honour... You obviously have nothing and can provide nothing so the last resort is insult... LOL
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, it is my opinion based on some solid facts! You should read or view articles not associated with the extreme right wing someday. You also will have a strong opinion based on solid fact rather than parroting of mainstream media. That is the difference between you and I, I dig deeper than the easy news, you know the Murdoch type!
     
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    LOL... based on solid facts? So far you have not provided anything and yet you proclaim that you are of the higher ground.

    Fact is that it is your opinion and nothing more. IF you had solid facts, you would provide them and you cannot.

    Your premise that of ' You know the Murdoch type' is simply your attempt to scare people with 'oh the media are such demons'. You proclaim to be able to see the deeper side of the media and yet you attempt a straw man argument of the demon Murdoch... Perhaps you think he writes all the reports in the media? Perhaps you consider he edits all the media reports?

    Fact is, you cannot demonstrate that there is a media conspiracy against the ALP, the only evidence is that all the stupidity of the ALP is reported by the media.

    In fact if you were so objective about the politics of Australia (as you proclaim... LOL) you would be asking yourself what a majority here are asking. “How the hell can we get rid of ALL these clowns and find far better people to represent the Australia?" But NO, all we get is your saint can do no wrong. You defend your saint to the maximum of your opinion (given to you by your handlers) but provide nothing.

    CRI is simply one way that people can consider pulling these people into line, yet you are unable to refute this and attempt to oppose through opinion.

    I simply believe you are one of the people who benefit from the corruption of the ALP. I have no idea how or why, but due to the fact you follow them blindly would mean that you have a vested interest in keeping them respectful which you are failing to do with every attempt to claim opinion as fact...LOL
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please gazza, I am simply one of those that takes what the mainstream media says with a good dose of salt. It is embarrassing to go along with what they say without further investigation. Many of you take it as gospel and parrot every word and concept verbatim! Have you ever worked for a large organisation to notice how policy is infiltrated from the top down. It is extremely effective!

    The CIR will never be effective until Australia rids itself of the media monopoly! People, like yourself will be influenced by a single source with vested interests in particular government policy! Are you suggesting that the rest of us should simply believe what they are saying and blindly repeat their reports like you and others do on this forum! It is the epitome of superficiality!

    The Gillard government is hammered such as was the case with hawks and Keating, we only have retrospect now that delivers the real message about how these guys progressed australia like no other! Don't believe fony abbotts retorts, he's an ego centric clown!
     
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    You say it all the time. You talk about NWO conspiracies, bankers, politicians and the Mainstream Media (note the capitalisation, as if it's one big organisation) doing things in secret, without democratic consent or with the tacit acceptance of sheeple etc. They are the elites. Murdoch is one of them.

    The point is not whether or not people will or won't do things if allowed to, the point is what people are allowed to accumulate in order to disproportionately and dramatically influence others to their own advantage or advantage of a particular viewpoint. I.E., the point is what people are allowed to do. Murdoch has accumulated a disproportionate capacity to influence and that should change.

    When Truth wields influence even remotely resembling that of, say, Murdoch and argues the same point then you may be able to call him or her a hypocrite in relation to this. H3ll, he could even own 20% of the national media and still be able to argue that Murdoch has too much influence (relative to his/her own, of course). Until then, stop it.
     
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    I think that's stretching it beyond breaking point.
     
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    And when there is no substance for your side of the debate revert to AD Hominem attacks
     
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    LOL So your speculations of your opinion as fact is supposedly the important aspect of your understanding of how the media works.

    So far you have not demonstrated your claims of parroting the media or even the conspiracy of the media against the ALP

    As stated, pure speculation portrayed as fact. Nothing more, shot down when the media actually reports something that is good about the Government, then it is fair reporting (unfortunately due to inept government, not much of that has occurred)
    LOL... Do you suggest you are one of those that dig deep into the media and find the truth in media? LOL fact that you support the conspiracy speculations of another only demonstrate your apparent attempt to portray one thing when you really are supporting an opinion that you agree with. Nothing more.

    The problem you do not see, is that while you weigh the comments of bloggers as media reporting the truth, many are examining the facts of as stated by media. The fact you need to hear others tell you their opinion to decide what side you will sit again only demonstrates you do not know how the media actually works and seem incapable to formulate your own opinion with substantial support.
    Hawk and Keating where hammered? LOL Hawk... the most charismatic leader Australia has ever had was hammered by the media, Talk about claiming the victim card. Hawk had suffered some criticism by the media due to the “recession Australia had to have”, and so they should have, due to the fact that in part it was due to bad economic policy. However, over considerably most of his leadership Hawk had the media in his pocket. Keating would never have been re-elected if the media was not on his side, people were just recovering from his great “recession Australia had to have.” So don't crap on about how bad the Hawk and Keating government's had at the media's hands that is total crap.

    Gillard is hammered by the media due entirely to the fact that it sells to the public. The media is about making money, not winning elections. Fact is Gillard is at present the leader of the most inept government Australia has ever seen. Her party is on the nose due to their only interest in remaining in power. They clearly demonstrate that people’s wishes are not important to them as long as they can stay in power. They have failed where many governments to pander to the minorities and find they are in a black hole due to the inability to govern.

    Stop blaming the media for the ALP's own stupidity.
     
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    You see, you have demonstrated your "opinion" based on mainstream media reporting who have simply jumped on the words of fony Abbott. Australia were miles ahead of other countries under hawks and Keating as has ben demonstrated in another thread, the twist was that no one actually saw that it was a world wide recession, it wasn't isolated to Australia!

    You nailed it right there Garry, Gillard is hammered because it sells, not because of some moral obligation to provide citizens with a balanced perspective!

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    You see, you have demonstrated your "opinion" based on mainstream media reporting who have simply jumped on the words of fony Abbott. Australia were miles ahead of other countries under hawks and Keating as has ben demonstrated in another thread, the twist was that no one actually saw that it was a world wide recession, it wasn't isolated to Australia!

    You nailed it right there Garry, Gillard is hammered because it sells, not because of some moral obligation to provide citizens with a balanced perspective!
     
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    LOL... Abbott is to blame for the unfair media coverage? Where does it end?

    It is only fools who believe these accusations of the ALP. Blame the coalition for Thompson affair, forget that he committed a crime, blame the media for their stupidity, forget the fact that they committed the very acts that was reported. Blame the people for not liking the ALP, forget the fact they were elected to represent the peoples wishes. Blame the coalition for their failing asylum seeker policies, because they had one that was actually working and the ALP is unable to deal with an issue.

    When do you think the ALP will accept some responsibility for their own stuff ups? I gather it will be never.


    LOL... fact is that Hawk and Keating are not in power, Gillard and Swan are.

    If you want to continue to look to the past because the current people are so bad that you need to find somebody who can actually do things, then you need to really examine why this policy of Keating’s was needed. Worldwide recession???... LOL facts do deceive you don't they?

    Again, Hawk and Keating did need to receive criticism, as in part it was their policy that created the situation at the time. One however, must give Keating something to be proud of, he did build far better than what would have occurred, under normal circumstances.
    Well, that is the problem with your entire premise, you consider because the ALP tell you that the Media is conspiring to oust the current government you believe it. The media will sensationalise everything in attempt to get people to pay for them to get their reports from them. Blogging seems to be the current norm now as evidence of everything, very few actually have the ability to see where facts actually are. Many just tout the opinion of somebody else as fact, their lays the problem for the ALP. Not the media but the fact that people can not differentiate from opinion and fact.

    You, yourself Are guilty of attempting to attribute the opinion of others as fact when you make statements that ' if it sounds reasonable, it must be right'.
     
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    Of course you do realise that at this present time, YOU have joined the media circus?

    You do realise by simply posting on any site anything of your thoughts and feelings the entire world can access means you are part of the media, you despise?

    So when you play the media games and present them as support for your hatred of media styles, there is a demonstration of exactly what you despise? Don’t you realise that? Short of demonstrating hypocrisy?
     

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