Nikki Haley denies Gaza violence is related to new US Embassy in Jersualem

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  1. MMC

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    Maybe the Palestinian defenders can show us one year of peaceful protests since the formation of Israel.

    Surely there is just one year out of 70.
     
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    They had plenty opportunity to work out peace and have shown that they are not ready. If they are not willing to compromise there is no reason to continue standing there like an idiot with our hand open. Maybe when they realize what they missed out on, they will change their mind.
     
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    I get both your points.

    I can't wait.

    I was wondering about Backstrom. Is it just my imagination or do they seem to be playing better without him? It's amazing - I can't praise Barry Trotz enough for the job he's done in these playoffs...:beer:
     
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    You don’t think Israelis blow up palestians? Lol
    Neither side has clean hands in this conflict.
    That’s not the point. The point is the only option is a two state solution and this embassy doesn’t help that happen.
     
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    I used the broken clock analogy. I have only heard her being truthful once. Most of what has come from her mouth have been lies and deceit. And the quality of her lies is very important. She isn't doing the typical ego driven trump lying, that is, superficial lying but of the most gravest and tremendously important lying.

    She has lied so much that being honest once does not fix her problem, or make the other ones acceptable.

    So, she is either the dumbest person we have ever sent to the UN, or she has been told what lies to tell by whoever is handling her.

    I value honesty from just average people to the greatest degree. I try very hard to not lie in my personal life and despise those who do not work hard to be honest, and despise even more those who work hard to lie and get away with it. And when it comes to a gov't by and for the people, I demand even a greater standard from those people who speak in my name on my behalf, and whose honesty can mean the difference between americans losing their very lives, or living out their lives and enjoying what all people want. Life. And I cannot comprehend anyone who does not think like this. It is one of the most basic morals, one of the most basic codes of human behavior.


    So when I see Haley perpetually lie, time and time again, the idea that she told the truth once, does not ingratiate herself to me or my own moral compass. And lying in her position is the most irresponsible behavior that this woman can do. She is not a person of high character, nor is she a responsible human being. And we should all reject that, and kick the partisanship and ideology to the curb for there are so many things more important than these things. And if believing in an ideology, and if being a partisan requires lying, then you need to get rid of the ideology or partisanship for it is turning people into lying scumbags.
     
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    You don't seem to be from this country. You certainly don't seem to know that Native Americans do indeed have their own nations as settled by treaty with the US government.

    And clearly you ignored what was posted about the Zionists who bought a good deal of the land that the UN awarded to Israel. Can you provide one single legal document that any Palestinian can produce to show ownership of his land? The answer is no!

    What do you mean "we"?
     
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    now you just rambling, sound like a crusader. the villain is always on the other side.

    look at greek riots or any riots, plenty fire, throwing rock etc. yet I didn't see police snipe them.

    wow imagine someone you didn't get along one day says your house is hes now, you gonna tell him go ahead live there. UN force Israel onto middle east when they know full well arab hate them, when they know that land already has occupancy. so why not give them part of Canada or US since we are allies afterall, there are plenty land, and population density is one of the lowest . No of course, cause no one want give something they consider is their own land, not for allies, certainly not for someone who doesn't get along well.
     
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    We are not party to the solution. Not legally. The capital city normally hosts the official US Embassy,. Israel long ago named their capital city. Nothing changed since around 1952.
     
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    The villians are the one blowing up little girls in Manchester concerts and their leftist apologists.

    The arabs hate them? You mean other than the 20% of the Israeli Arab citizens who live peacefully inside Israel?

    No. Muslims hate them because they're not Muslim. That's why they keep attacking them and getting their asses kicked.

    "Boo hoo why don't you let us kill you!" - "palestinian" proverb
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To make your case, name the lies. It otherwise is pure name calling.
     
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    The Palestinians claim its their capital also.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To illustrate your point, this video is enormously instructive. This woman grew up as a Muslim taught to hate the Jews.

    Taught to kill the Jews.

     
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    In suicide attacks?
    NO! I sure don't. And of course you know better than that.
    Do Palestinians get liquidated when they attack Israelis and provoke conflict? They sure do.

    The Palestinians don't get to decide where the Americans put their embassy. Israel controls Jerusalem.
    Wars of aggression have consequences and Jerusalem is one of them.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
     
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    you mean the Native reservation where a small stone in a sea of land? before it was all native American. Yes I am from US, live here for the past 30+yrs. oh btw Native reservation is still consider part of US, not an independent nation.

    could you show documentation of nation show the ownership of land back in 40s, especially the poor one. Palestinian been live there for very long time.
    now i'm not saying Israel doesn't deserve to live there, because they live there for the past 60s, not because some 1000yrs history. but they currently expanding by building more housing etc, and use excessive force.
     
  15. Robert

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    Frankly when did the country called Palestine formally exist? It was in agreements made from 1993 to 1999.

    So if the Palestinians want the US embassy in the West Bank city of their part of Palestine, we should comply with their request. But we also must agree with Israel that named it as their capital in 1952.

    Now do you understand?
     
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    These are the same people that get angry when victims of a home invasion shoot their attackers.
     
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    The same UN that created Israel has said it’s not their capital. Can Mexico decide their capital is now LA?
     
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    what are you talking about, just because one drug dealer in US, you gonna tie all American together? generalize much.
    Muslim hate them cause they take place where they used to live. so if you like Israel so much why not give them montana, nothing there ;)
     
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    We did not put our Embassy in their part of the city. Suppose the Jews announced they will take the entire city over? Why would we sanction that or the Palestinians taking over the Jews part of the same city?
     
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    Yes because they've never banded together and tried to destroy Israel, and aren't massing on the border attacking them or anything.

    No missile systems are being set up in Syria to bomb them.

    Who do you think you're kidding?
     
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    Actually that is not what the UN says. The UN says the status of Jerusalem is still up for debate. That the question is not settled. The Jews believe it is their capital city and have since 1952, ahead of the state called Palestine existing.
     
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    And Israel didn’t exist before 1948.
    I really don’t want to get into the history rabbit hole. Both sides make claims to the region.
     
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    She has stated as fact many times which is not fact, involving several things, like who did the gas attacks in syria. And she knew her facts were not facts for non of them had been verified as facts.

    You actually need evidence to support your facts, for without evidence, you are not looking at facts. You are looking at conjecture, given as facts, and that involves lying.
     
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    what is that has to do with my post?? like I said give them montana, it solve all the issues ;) and US got a friendly neighbor to trade.
     
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    Exactly. And they weren't protesting the embassy-they were protesting the existence of Israel.
     
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