'No differences' between children of same-sex and opposite-sex parents

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Arxael, Apr 16, 2016.

  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    All the gay parents we know have great kids. They're very much wanted and respected, and in such an environment they can't fail to thrive. Incidentally, not one of the dozen or so older kids we know is gay.
     
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    It can also be a cop out to tell kids it's okay to do and be whatever they feel, because personal feelings matter more than just about anything. And it may come as a shock to you, but teaching your kids not to be asshats INCLUDES teaching them to be tolerant of other points of view. And further shocks, some parents want to teach their kids that gay isn't an option, in the same way other parents want to teach their kids that drugs aren't an option. Tolerance means accepting THAT, also.

    You want to talk about irresponsible parents? How about those utter lunatics who encourage little Johnny to wear a dress, at age 5? Telling him he can be a girl if he wants to, because it's all about being happy (which is of course, the very sort of 'happiness' which leads to high rates of suicide and depression) in whatever way a 5 year old sees fit. I don't think it's actually possible to be LESS responsible than that.
     
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    And you tell me how little Johnny wearing a dress is actually a bad thing, on it's own, minus the social consequences from folks like you? Does it mean he won't be able to function as a person? He won't be able to be productive?

    Or does it just mean you'll have to be uncomfortable?
     
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    You make reasonable assumptions about me and what I have lived, but you're entirely wrong. I've been mixing with gender-fluid peeps since my teens years. I have known many, from cross-dressing straights to stage drag queens, to transgender men. I was their champion before some of you were born, and long before this 'new wave'. For a good portion of my youth (late teens to mid 20's), I ONLY socialised in what would now be regarded as gay venues, but in that place and time were considered 'normal'. Patrons were about 50% gay/lesbian, and 50% other. Straight, trans, whatevs.

    THESE people are also condemning the practice of encouraging kids who are far too young to be even thinking about this stuff. I agree with them. I also know that parents can never be deemed entirely free of the crime of impost in this regard. It's all too easy to allow our own cr@p to colour our motivations. While that's not a problem when it comes to choice of football teams, it is a huge problem when it comes to things like religion and gender theory (another form of religion, IMO).

    Meantime, if you think allowing 5 year olds to act out their fantasies is always a good thing, I recommend you don't have kids. And kids for whom it's beyond a passing fantasy, and is clearly a troubling 'obsession', the responsible course is counselling.
     
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    I did lots of stuff at the age of 5, that my straight laced conservative parents were dead set against and would never would have encouraged, so did my friends and peers, and what we did in the bushes and in vacant apartments or homes, would shock most folks, So much for your quaint notions and outdated ideas.

    In fact, most of the strange stuff sprouted from the lectures on what we kids should not do, I figured it must be something if it was so prohibited.
     
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    I was talking to my ex-boyfriend, who is still my significant other as we plan to get back together in the future, the other day and he brought up the point that children raised by gay or lesbian parents are better off than children raised by straight or opposite sex parents because of the fact that they would be more likely to be open-minded and accepting of LGBT people due to their upbringing. My significant other is also bisexual like I am.
     
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    Yea, and the quacks that draw these conclusions are the same people that believe it's 5-year-olds can choose their own sex, and who believe it's perfectly normal that a 50-year-old man believes "he" is a 7-year-old girl...

    These quacks aren't qualified to determine differences because to them every "difference" is absolutely normal.

    Your modern day general psychologist and psychiatrist are morons that are incapable of seeing mental defects in people because their politics won't allow it.
     
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    DSM-5.........
     
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    What the hell are you jabbering about. Is it remotely possible that you are unable to comprehend the written word, or are you just to lazy and incurious to look at the highly regarded, peer reviewed studies on the topic? Or, maybe you are emotionally invested in believing that gay parents have a detrimental effect on children. Which is it?
     
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    Peer reviewed? is that a joke? you mean a bunch of progressives get together and concur that since they support same sex couples raising children it would only be politically correct to overlook cases where the children didn't turnout so great???

    Like I said again these quacks think absolutely all behavior when it comes to sex or sexual identity is NORMAL.

    These quacks aren't doctors - there the asshats that issue stamps of approval so progressives can run around and marry trees if they want, or pretend they're babies, or whack off their dongs....

    But hey it's all part of the plan the communists had to destroy the west since the 50's so.....
     
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    No, Lenin said; "The decadent West will destroy itself, We merely need to sit back and watch, and when the time is ripe, we will roll in and take over without firing a shot, We will be welcomed with open arms as Saviors and restore Order in troubled times."
     
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    I tried to engage you by asking some probing questions about your beliefs. I offered some insights and information. All that you can do is to dismiss it, and ignore the issues that I raised and the questions that I asked. Now you're moronically throwing communism into it.

    I said that I wanted to understand what makes you tick. Now I know. You don't tick. You just sputter and are content to wallow in ignorance.
     
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    What makes me tick is actually not accepting what these idiot quacks say, I look into their backgrounds, I look at what groups they belong to, I look and see how they're really nothing more than progressive activists with a progressive agenda...

    I unlike most don't say "well they're doctors so they must be right" like the sheep in society..

    What makes me tick is I do research on the subject and I know the majority of these quacks routinely exclude evidence that doesn't fit their preconceived hypothesis....

    What makes me tick is I ask questions and I just don't blindly accept every damn thing the media spews because 90% of what the media spews is partisan garbage...

    This will show you the role communism plays in this issue.

    http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
     
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    Holy crap! Really!!?? Communist goals from 1963. You are just to bizarre to bother to deal with.

    You do research ? Really?? Yet you don't bother to post any of it. You just expect me to accept that....That is what is called an appeal to ignorance.
     
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    You know that was congressional record right?

    Those ideas were outlined in 1963 and 90% of them have come to fruition.

    Care to explain how that happened? was that guy a psychic? oh no - he got all that from the Naked Communist which is pretty much the communist manifesto......

    Of course you call me bizarre because that's all you have to say because you damn well know I'm right.....

    This is why your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing name 'progressive patriot' is an oxymoron....
     
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    and how will those parents react to their kids deciding to be opposed to homosexuality? because that can and does happen, you know. will they be 'open-minded and accepting'?

    more importantly, why in hell would a particular position on a particular thing make someone a 'better' parent? those same parents could also drink half a bottle of wine with dinner every night, be hostile to conservatives, be intolerant bigots (of anyone with a different opinion), cheat on taxes, be smokers, shouters, aggressive, lazy, angry, forget to teach their kids basic kindness to ALL people and animals, or any one of a zillion dysfunctions. THESE are the things which determine parenting quality, not political position on a single issue.

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    oh but they're very quick to pathologise (and demonise) any difference of politics.
     
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    actually his 'throwing communism into it' is evidence he actually knows something about this. and it's entirely pertinent. those who aren't aware of the fact that Marxists have a declared agenda to de-hetero the world are either fools or ideologues. there is open social engineering to this end going on in schools all over the western world. the programs being built into curriculums are designed by powerful Marxist academics. ignore all this at your own peril.
     
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    I was actually going to bring that up...... Yea, these quacks think it's normal that a man wants to be a woman but they think I'm insane because I'm a libertarian, so in their view I'm the crazy one and the guy that wants to whack his dong off is perfectly sane.

    The nuts are officially running the nut house.
     
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    The ignorance is on the side of those who have somehow managed to avoid knowing that this is a CURRENT Marxist driven mission.
     
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    Several of these Marxist academics have openly stated that the goal is to break down gender constructs and to 'gay up the world'. There is a purposeful mission to take power from white men, and transfer it to 3rd wave feminists. In a particular western country recently, an academic with particular power and influence internationally in LGBT issues, recently posted on facebook that her mission was to 'turn the flag red'. She was promptly suspended from her high ranking position for having revealed her motives publically. This has all happened in the past couple months.
     
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    Yea I know all about it. As a matter of fact I was watching a youtube video a while back and this college student sued her college because the professor (Marxist nutbar) told their students as an assignment to go out and have a homosexual/lesbian affair and write an essay on the experience. Well the student (a female) refused like any rational normal person and the professor failed her.... Oh and get this the college actually backed the crazy Marxist professor. Can you believe that?

    These Marxist quacks are absolutely insane - it's their mission to destroy society.
     
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    Yep, that's the stuff they're doing all right. They know, like religious fundamentalists, that they have to get 'em when they're young. That's why there has been a very aggressive push to have these programs placed in public schools. The latest version of which sees kids given dildos to inspect, asked to write classified sex ads, role play homosexuality and transgenderism, and taught about 'dark rooms' and other places where anonymous sex is procured. This is to be taught to Year 7 kids - ie, ages 11 thru 13. This is a COMPULSORY program. Parents cannot opt out on religious or other grounds.

    The whole sorry mess is sold in plain packaging which looks (and is unquestioningly accepted as by well meaning but essentially lazy parents) like some sort of tolerance or anti-bullying program. The very people who write these programs admit that they are nothing of the sort. This is a concerted effort to undo any parental or cultural antipathy towards LGBTism - not by teaching kids to be kind to everyone, regardless of race/orientation/disability etc, but by 'normalising' that which isn't (numerically) normal. Since numbers are not on their side, they are using everything avenue available to them to 'create' more rainbow kids. They openly admit this. At the same time as shouting at dissenters that a school program can't turn someone gay. This is the manner of human behind such social engineering. Liars.

    I would add though, that their mission isn't to destroy the world. They absolutely believe they're making it better. Just like every other social engineer of history.
     
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    Indeed, these progressives (Marxists) 'educators' use the Marx/Lenin/Stalin playbook. You know what Lenin said right? "Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted" well that is the exact philosophy these progressive educators subscribe to... These fascists actually believe it's their duty to raise other peoples children and they brainwash these kids with their insane progressive ideology because they believe it's their duty to manufacture the next generation of brainwashed freaks like themselves. Public schools these days (especially urban public schools) are really reeducation camps - they focus more on social issues and progressive politics than they do reading, math, history etc...

    Oh and without question some of these loony progressive teachers are encouraging kids to be gay - without a doubt. Of course they also teach white kids that they're evil and are responsible for every terrible thing that happens in this country and how they should be ashamed of their "white privilege" while they teach the black kids how great they are and how evil white people are while the these progressive social justice warriors shower the black kids with all kinds of cupcakes and candy while the white kids get nothing but disrespect - and mind you these kids are 5-6 years old...

    Here is the link about that: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/0...ing-kindergartners-about-white-privilege.html

    And progressives wonder why I hate them?

    Oh and we have this little gem too... And this is from 1963 and these progressives deny they're totalitarian Marxists..

    http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
     
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    How are these People Marxists ? Did Karl Marx teach anything Pro Gay ???
    How can they be Fascists either ?
    Now, in the U.S. They might be Liberals / Democrats, And they may seem very similar, however, their Anti gun agenda is quite clear.
     
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    "De hetero the world"??? Seriously dude? You might want to talk to a professional about those disturbing thoughts that your having. Meanwhile, you might want to try to get back to the topic of parenting.
     

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