No Solid Proof Paddock Was The Shooter

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  1. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only proof of the existence of the "you're all gonna die" woman that I've seen is a video of a young woman being interviewed shortly after the shooting who was making that assertion. I have not seen any other corroboration of her claims from any other source.
     
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    I can put up the video but can't paste.
     
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    G W, I don't think so then. I don't remember the site.
     
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    She may have made up the claim for reasons of notoriety.
     
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    It does not mean anything other than a young woman may have said something.
     
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    It was posted earlier in the thread, I believe.

    Its possible. One would think if a woman was screaming "you're all gonna die" in a crowd right before a significant number of them actually did die, more than one person would have mentioned it to the press. Hard to say. I have no reason to disbelieve her, but I need some kind of corroboration before I consider it as truth.
     
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    J.S. I don't think that would be logical under the circumstances. If I were just in a hail of machine gun fire don't think I'd be getting too political.
     
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    Well it was 1000s of people so maybe the press didn't get to all of them since some were probably still running and many others injured or worse.
    If my lead hat was on I'd say she was an actor with a role to play. But then why just one actor.
     
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    Video has already been posted on this thread---
     
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    In my admittedly limited experience (of just how much quite unbelievable stuff goes on with official sanction), govts/law enforcement etc absolutely depend upon the broad scale mockery of Conspiracy Theorists. It's their most powerful weapon.
     
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    Do we have them?
     
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    Mostly. Or boredom.

    Either way, there are more things ....
     
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    Paddock was locked in his suite from the inside and had barricaded the door. If there was a second shooter he/she had to fly out of the window on the 32nd floor.
     
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    This is the primary driver of CTs, sure.

    But there is also an element of 'need for answers' in the ready acceptance of whatever we're told. Further, asking questions when certainty has already been provided, does not provide the comfort we imagine is being sought (by CTs). This is where the resistance to enquiry reveals its own self as a protective measure against uncertainty.
     
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    There was more than one account. Logically the possibility becomes high there were others on the ground because other things are too suspicious. The woman warning people they were going to die tonight. The big exit gates were closed and the lights turned on.

    This is an event designed to manipulate public opinion, a psyops designed to educate or destroy the public. This would be the best view, one we can get traction on.

    We are challenged to know how this is possible and why. More challenged than many can imagine, and that is just the basis of "how", without getting into what just happened in LV.

    There is a violent showdown going on and the public is threatened because the PURPOSE of free speech is abridged. People cannot create informed opinion needed for effective, lawful, peaceful action to stop being a victim of competing tyrannies carried out unconsciously.

    Can you grasp this?
     
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    My mobile might not get this URL right, but I just posted a comprehensive explanation in overview.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/no-solid-proof-paddock-was-the-shooter.515843/page-19

    Most importantly, we must not take the bait. We must focus on enforcing the law of the land with public opinion that is constitutionally fundamental.

    Do you agree with these definitions of prime constitutional intent and right?

    1) We have the right to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights.

    2) If the framers intended for Americans to alter or abolish then they intended that free speech have the ultimate PURPOSE of enabling the unity under law needed to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that is what we're told.

    I have no issues with the sole shooter idea, don't get me wrong. I'm not sure why folk are chasing that phantom ... what purpose it serves etc (other than the alarming possibility that the second person is currently at large), I just can't shake the suspicion that there is more to this one than we're being told.
     
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    How do you feel about the woman with the warning 45 minutes before the shooting.
     
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    Don't know what to make of that. Post event mis-remembering? It does happen. Whatever it was, I'm fairly sure it would have been immediately investigated if it had been credible. Does the woman who heard/saw this 'warning' (how could she be the only one?) say she's been interviewed by detectives?
     
  20. ChristopherABrown

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    I do not think so.

    https://www.infowars.com/concert-goers-were-warned-they-were-all-going-to-die-tonight/

    NO ct BS about infowars either. This is credible evidence I don't care where it came from, raw field video.
     
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    So the person in question was 'escorted out by security', but still this woman wasn't interviewed by police. I may be naive, but can only see reasons for this, given the scale of this event. 1) it's not even remotely credible, or 2) it's being 'ignored' because it's crucial to investigations.

    My point is, in a case of mass murder without motive, every last tiny odd thing associated with it would be thoroughly investigated, immediately. This would be one of the bigger 'odd things' associated with it, so there's no chance at all it would be ignored by LE under normal circumstances.
     
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  22. ChristopherABrown

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    Hmm, a case of controlled law enforcement and press is for sure, or we would have reporters at the hospitals and interviewing people who were shot filling a huge vacuum of information.

    It is an abridging of the right to see the PURPOSE of free speech served and a free press.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-attack-warning-eyewitness-what-happened-latest-news-updates-a7978821.html?amp

    Witness Brianna Hendricks, said the woman had been behaving strangely before her outburst.
    Ms Hendricks, who had been in Vegas to celebrate her 21st birthday, told Mail Online: “There was a lady who came running up behind us in the concert and she started to play with people's hair, acting crazy, and she told us that we're all going to f***ing die.
    “She said they're all around us and we were going to die.”​

    I had heard that last part in the beginning then it was left out in subsequent stories.

    Logically there is a huge problem with the fact the lights were turned on and the big exits closed. Most witnesses climbed over the turnstiles to get out.

    That alone is like, wtf?

    The lack of an apparent motive means something altogether different than we might think, but media will never go there.

    These are normal circumstances in Iraq, or Palestine, Paris or London, but not here.
     
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  23. ChristopherABrown

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    I need to share with people the results of testing members in this thread that have a problem with the information indicating a conspiracy in the Las Vega shooting.

    All of these members were asked if they accepted these two definitions of the most prime constitutional intent.

    1) We have the right to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights.

    2) If the framers intended for Americans to alter or abolish then they intended that the ultimate PURPOSE of free speech be for Americans use to enable the unity under law in order to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights.

    Not one of these members accepted those definitions. Not one provided a good reason for that. Not one defined a method for Americans to create the needed unity for altering or abolishing through Article V. Now, these are questions are ones answered immediately by a 13 year old girl about 1.5 years ago. I happened to have had her old phone which her father gave to me to use. She is smart and pretty well educated. She would get bored and text me every 2 or 3 months. I sent her links to this very forum to show here what I was doing with her old phone. One day I decided to see how she would answer inquiry on these definitions of prime constitutional intent.

    _______
    Chris wrote:
    Are you interested in my activism?

    Savvy wrote:
    Yes

    Chris wrote:
    At the link in this message history, the forum, I'm slowly having success. It's about national unity in the principles and intent of the constitution. Best thing that could happen for the future. Wanna new link?

    Savvy wrote:
    Yes

    Chris wrote:
    This is the thread I'm in now.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...constitution-through-convention-states-6.html
    When people do not answer this inquiry.
    **Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

    Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?**
    I win, but few realized it. I think more and more are starting to.
    Do you understand the inquiry?"

    Savvy wrote:
    Yes completely

    Chris wrote:
    That is soooooo awesome! You are like 13?

    Savvy wrote:
    Yes

    Chris wrote:
    I don't know if you know how profoundly shocking it would be for the adult world of politics if young people started making this agreement in large numbers, but I'll tell you, they will start stammering in speechless wonder.
    _____

    Perhaps examine the exchanges leading to my inquiry with these members and consider who you are communicating with and WHY they might be communicating with you.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...was-the-shooter.515843/page-9#post-1068093838

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...was-the-shooter.515843/page-9#post-1068093892

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...as-the-shooter.515843/page-10#post-1068095980

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...as-the-shooter.515843/page-10#post-1068095981

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...as-the-shooter.515843/page-15#post-1068106368

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...as-the-shooter.515843/page-15#post-1068106493

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...as-the-shooter.515843/page-15#post-1068106507

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...as-the-shooter.515843/page-19#post-1068113072
     
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    I KNEW IT! Watch it and weep.

     
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