"No, the economy didn't suddenly get strong under Donald Trump"

8 years under obama, WITH a recession to help the inflated numbers, +10,400 points.

3 years under Trump, AFTER he reversed obama's policies, closing in on +12,000 points.

I'll also add that 0bama's biggest jump was seen after republicans controlled the House and the Senate. You're using trend lines like you use percentages because you think it benefits your argument better than actual numbers.

 

Trend lines are THE standard in economic historical analysis and projections. Always has been.

 

and in economics, the trend lines as well as the actual numbers are used. And as the data shows, your claims are abject nonsense. The economy has been on the same unchanging trend line, since 2010. Nothing has changed under trump.

 

Obama's first 2.5 years (from 7,608 to 10,913: +3,305 points, a 43% increase
Trump's first 2.5 years (from 17,655 to 26,458: +8,803 points, a 49% increase

I don't know what your methodology was, but I went to the Marketwatch website to grab the numbers and then put them into a percentage calculator. So tell me now, which economy did better in its first 2.5 years?

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia/charts

https://percentagecalculator.net/

 

I watch the stock market every single day and I'm telling you with 1,000% certainty that when the stock market dropped over 500 points it was because China acted like they wanted to reneg on the tariffs. After phase 1 finally went through, the stock market broke another record and hit 29,000 points. The tariffs have absolutely helped the market and the tariffs are 1,000% because of Trump.

 

If you watch the stock market every day, you'd know there's a dip almost every time Trump talks about tariffs or trade. Continue in your religious faith that artificially increasing taxes is economically good. I'll stick to the evidence.

 

You do not have any facts.

 

I've posted the graphs several times on the forums. Anyone crediting Trump can't read a trend, or they believe he has a time machine.

 

Propaganda is not facts.

If the economy did so well under obama then why is obama endorsing Trump and not Biden?

 

You are wrong. Here is a graph:

 

I agree. Which is why I stick with facts.

huh?

 

You can see my post history for the ones I have posted. Yours doesn't even have the axis labelled, so a pretty terrible graph. Do you know how to draw a trend line through that graph?

 

Jan 2010 to Jan 2017 - +9,800 points / 1,400 points per year
Jan 2017 to Feb 2020 - +8,900 points / 2,970 points per year

How are you gonna sit there and tell me that 9,800 points over 7 straight years is the same as 8,900 points over 3 years and 1 month? Do you even know what "claims" means? Or "abject nonsense"?

 

Wait . . . did you just pick two data points and average the difference without actually looking at any of the other data? Pretty sure I'd get fired if I did that.

 

yes I know what both mean. Your claims remain abject nonsense. As I have and will continue pointing out, the economy has been on the same upward unchanging trend line since 2010. Nothing has changed under trump.

 

There's a dip every time China crawfishes on the tariffs. I mentioned that. I even said it dropped over 500 points at one time because of that. Dropped is another word for dipped.

 

We're dealing with people who think that trend analysis is a conspiracy to steal credit from Trump. I still have a couple of my econ textbooks. Pretty sure all of them emphasize trend analysis. The conspiracy must run deep.

 

It dips when Trump suggests new tariffs. And math still says that artificially inflating prices reduces business value.

 

Whew. . . . You can't be serious.

I took the data from obama's "first 2.5 years" and compared it to Trump's "first 2.5 years".

If you think my research is wrong, WTF are you doing to come up with your results?

 

It does not matter. For some reason you think posting a graph makes you right....it doesn't. I posted a graph and you reject it so instead of a graph how about a giraffe?


See I proved you wrong. My giraffe beats your graph.

 

You posted a graph that literally didn't say anything. There were no labelled axis. That's the difference. But, yes, this is the nonsense required to have religious faith in the "Trump economic miracle."

 

So what? The other graphs posted here are fake news.

 

Where did you find this? Do you not research your own graphs? I pulled the data myself.

The S&P 500 that your source cherry-picked doesn't add up to the actual numbers.

S&P 500 under Obama from Jan 2009 (inauguration) to April 30th: +300 points




S&P 500 under Trump from Jan 2017 (inauguration) to to April 30th: +550 points


Refute it with sources instead of the generic "abject nonsense" you keep saying.

 

You think that the markets are "the economy"?

*LOL*

 

You're dealing with people who go to actual data sources and research interactive charts instead of finding some Politico or similar website to pull unfounded charts off of and present them as "evidence".

Has nothing to do with conspiracies.