"No, the economy didn't suddenly get strong under Donald Trump"

No, I've posted several charts myself, never from a news/purported news source either. And none of which the Trumpists have addressed. I'm also at least literate in trend analysis, which helps and which you can find in any introductory econ source. No need for Politico, though I appreciate the additional exercise in imagination.

 

I'm responding to your peeps who are using those numbers to measure the economical success of the present and former president. Way to pay attention.

 

I refuted it already.

 

While I don't dispute that the market is doing quite well right now, I think it's probably a good idea to keep in mind that the last two recessions (the big one in 07/08 and the little one in 01) were both preceded by record highs in the market.

Interest rates are extremely low, and corporate debt levels are at record highs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greats...porate-debt-means-for-investors/#32d8a0dc636c



The US has been on an amazing run, but as with all market economies, what goes up, will come down.

Plus there is this
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/b...-in-the-next-6-months-says-study-4919451.html

 

Who was doing that?

 

How could the Democrats stop the passing McCain's bill if the GOP had complete control of Congress in 2005 to include the Senate Banking Committee?

It wasn't F+F that caused the bust, nobody told nor forced the Wall Street banks to promote, sell, then package those loans into mortgage derivatives, it was Wall Street greed

And explain to us how Obama"s "recovery policies" worsened the economy

 

It didn’t reach the floor til May of 06, when the dems killed it

fannie and Freddie bundled and sold them, moreover where the ones giving the high risk loans

they created double digit UE

 

Figures never lie but liars often figure. Don't know who you listen to but I am sure it makes you happy. Just don't go suicidal on me when Trump gets re-elected!

 

The Democrats didn't control any of Congress in May of 2006, so how did they kill it?

F+F did not wrap those loans into mortgage derivatives, and it was local loan originators, many working for the Wall Street Banks, who promoted and sold them as fast as the could to pass them on, as I said, Wall Street greed

And if UE means unemployment, did you think unemployment happened the moment the Recession hit? Unemployment has been declining since 2010 (https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet), as the topic post says, Trump just caught the wave

 

OP a Leftist? Then the thread title is absolutely correct for them.. it's is the polar opposite of the truth.

 

Not lies, even Trump realizes the facts and is attempting to reframe the reality

"Trump seeks to distance strong economy from Obama policies in White House report"
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/...ng-economy-from-obama-policies-in-white-house

 

None of them supported it.

the loans came from Fannie and Freddie.

nope the double digit UE didn’t happen til the second year of Obama term , which is why the gop was able to win massively at all levels of govt and we saw a better trend after the dem policies were reversed

 

None of them supported it.

the loans came from Fannie and Freddie.

nope the double digit UE didn’t happen til the second year of Obama term , which is why the gop was able to win massively at all levels of govt and we saw a better trend after the dem policies were reversed

 

Ok? The facts remain, every economic metric has remained on the same unchanging trend line since 2010.

 

This has repeatedly been proven false.

 

As I’ve proven, republicans killed every single bill attempting to address the problem from 2001-2007

 

Totally refuted

 

Totally refuted

 

Yes, your claim has been refuted.

 

Yes, your claim has been refuted.

 

White flag noted again.

 

You again seem confused. Refuting your silly claims is not a white flag.

 

Then don't tell us you're voting for Trump because of some mystical, magical economy recovery by his admin.

 

I'm voting for Trump because he does not bow to the elitist effort to sell out America in favor of "GLOBALISM". He is building a wall so that third world countries south of our border do not bring us to our knees in that effort. Obama tried to convince us that was the "new normal" and it would take a "magician" for industry to return to America. Why does it make you so sore that he has been proven wrong? Of yeah, you're already working on a new "insurance policy" that when Trump wins 2020 in a landslide you can claim RUSSIA DID IT!

 

That explains our growing trade deficit that had been shrinking.

Illegal immigration has been trending downward for years. The wall will neither improve that trend nor make it worse. It's a waste of money so one man can go around claiming he has a huge wall named after him.

As has been repeatedly shown here, there are no new trends on this. Many of the projects Trump brags about, like the Texas chip plant began construction during Obama's terms.

Perhaps we could talk if you did indeed prove Trump has done anything he can point at as his. I suppose he could get credit for not screwing it up but then his long term tax deferrals for the rich and deficit spending do not bode well for the future.