Norwegian man sentenced to 6 years for giving girlfriend abortion pill laced smoothie

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the man should be punished the same way as if he had given the women a lot of laxatives and made her have a really unpleasant bowel movement. Is that what you're saying?

    If that's the case, I think the punishment in this case was drastically over-excessive. Don't you?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please show evidence of one man anywhere in history who has had a baby!
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you are saying is that being given a huge bowel movement is not assault, I asked you for clarification of what the man should be charged with, show a little bit of consistency!
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When a father or mother has a baby, is there really that much of difference other than how having that baby affects the mother's body ?

    I'm just saying, we're only talking about how the mother's body is being affected, aren't we?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is an assault, in some sense, just a very minor one.

    No permanent damage was done to her body.
    Probably just suffered a heavier period than normal.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Umm are you joking?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Incredible you think that someone giving you a drug against their will is a very minor assault.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. administering medication without consent
    2. causing heavy bleeding (although this charge should be mitigated because this isn't too different from an ordinary period the woman would experience in a normal period, and the woman would have experienced similar circumstances from a birth, so in a way this was just making the inevitable happen a few months early.
    3. feticide (homicide of a fetus)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I give you an Aspirin and tell you it's a Tylenol, is that really that serious?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're not even talking about anything all that usual. Many women take Plan B pills these days.

    They can be found on many drugstore shelves and don't even require a prescription these days in the U.S.

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    I had my drink spiked 20 years ago put me in a coma for three days, if you or anyone ever put ANY drug in my drink you would be lucky to get to the police station alive sunshine!
     
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    So you think this is ok?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not ok, but - apart from the death of the fetus - not really all that terrible.

    Just imagine if he did that when the woman wasn't pregnant.
     
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    These drugs didn't make her go unconscious.
     
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    If I were to.punch you in the face ( no threat here just an example) that would not be so bad
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would the punch cause to me something similar to what that woman went through (physically) ?

    Look, women have periods all the time. This one was just a little heavier with some cramping. That thing was going to come out of her sooner or later, so it's not like he really put her through something (physically) that she wasn't eventually going to go through anyway.

    Did the pill cause her something that she would not have gone through with birth?
     
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    It's just a punch. It's not that bad. And it will be a surprise too so you don't see it coming. Some minor pain for awhile.

    Not that bad.....right?
     
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    Just admit it. Most of what that man is really being punished for is the death of the fetus.

    Pro-choicers have trouble admitting this.
     
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    So you are ok with the punch then. Good to know

    And dont edit my posts
     
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    Would he have had to pay $23,000 to her if she had not been pregnant and he had given her that smoothie?
     
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    If I punched you and that kept you from an important business meeting where you lost money.....you could sue for more than that
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's suppose someone accidentally killed the pregnant woman with her fetus. Do you think the perpetrator would owe the father $23,000 in compensation for the mental anguish knowing his fetus was dead?
     
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    He may owe much much more depending on the circumstances
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any of that money owed to the father?

    (Even though they were unmarried, didn't have that close of a relationship, and he had basically just knocked her up)
     
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    Of course. Do you know how much OJ Simpsons victims parents were awarded?
     

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