Now, the liberals move to control your diet....

Maybe the OP does all his shopping at the register.

 

Ok, but we regulate foods and products all the time. For example, its illegal to have opened beer in your car. Intrusion right? Also you can't buy it if you are 18. Intrusion. You have to pay a big tax to buy cigarettes. Intrusion. Only special liquor stores are allowed to sell liquor. Intrusion. Its illegal for me to cook up meth and sell it to people. Intrusion. The government doesn't allow stores to cell food that isn't up to code. Intrusion. What if I want to buy it because its cheaper?

 

You need to distinguish between intrusions made because they are needed to protect others, and intrusions into people's personal decisions that do not. IF you can't say no, there is no limit to what people will decide for you. It's called freedom, in balance with a just society.

Laws are never fair ior just all around- because they are made by people who can't get their heads together and focus on the big picture. We do compromise. We just need to avoid being outright stupid and believing screwing things up is some kind of victory.

 

And while she's at it, train them not to get upset when the candy is moved five feet away, especially when they become adults.

 

It's only Berkeley, not the entire state.

 

Lets look at cigarette and alcohol regulations. Those are definitely intrusions into my personal decisions making it harder for me to get these products. Also, look at laws against illegal drugs. This is another intrusion. Why does the government ban foods below certain standards? Why can't the sellers simply label their food and let me choose what I want to buy? Another intrusion. The government already intrudes on personal decisions.

One reason is that personal decisions affect other people. Alcohol is a cause of abuse and broken families. Second hand smoke can kill. Meth addiction causes people to steal to pay for their habit, and destroys families too. Children follow their parent's bad eating habits and become obese. These problems cost our society hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, broken families, lost work productivity, etc. Also, drugs, alcohol, and junk food are addictions that are used by corporations to hack people's brains and override people's free will and self control. That is very unethical.

 

I think partly because they like the power to control, partly because regulations generate money and expand government......
And of course because they prefer you don't get to thinking for yourself too much.....

 

That's true. But in California, lunacy spreads faster than corona virus and it seems they never undo the mistakes!

 

Actually food regulations increase profits to stores. When consumers can be confident in the food they buy and wonder if their food is poisonous, its easier to make good free market decisions and get the best deal. People will go out to stores and buy more. There will be a lot fewer preventable diseases and reduce your insurance premiums and payroll tax for healthcare.

 

The opposite is true. The vast majority of illness comes from the Standard American Diet (SAD)which is mostly subsidized. Americans are fatter and sicker than ever. 1 in 3 Americans is already diabetic or pre-diabetic.

 

This is why I believe we need regulations and taxes on junk food. We obviously need to stop these subsidies.

 

How does a tax stop people from eating junk food?

 

It took you 15 hours but you figured it out.

You deny that you consider R positions to be vastly superior to D positions?

You're now a moderate right of center independent?

You continuously wrap up your partisan opinions about the superiority of R politics under a rubric of personal responsibility that you consistently claim the Ds lack.

Seems you've deflected on a substantial R agenda item here: the importance of packing the courts with the holy grail to overturn Roe V Wade.

I would go as far as to ask your opinion how a woman's decision to give birth impose on someone else, except that's a whole other thread.

Blah blah blah....

*don't be silly* *personal choices* *lacking character* *unwilling to respect others* *they will own and control you* *don't look to me for relief*

You can't break the rhythm of your arguments around here hardly for a single post, #74 in this thread being a refreshing exception.

Funny, you think you know Bukowski's point when you clearly don't understand it a bit.

 

It doesn't and that is the point. People who eat junk good cost the taxpayers and insurance payers. So they should pay for their purchasing choice. Also, raising prices does reduce demand. Its economics. Also, if we are going to tax something why not tax a bad thing like junk food instead of a good thing like investing and income? This is the same logic we apply to alcohol and cigarette taxes. And the bonus is you are still free to buy whatever you want. You want to kill yourself with grease food and cigarettes. Knock yourself out. But pay the tax first.

 

How does it cost taxpayers? I could see those on welfare costing taxpayers but they already are! Hell they go to the emergency room to get a bandaid. I work and have insurance, why should I have to pay the tax? If I have to pay the tax can I make a claim to the government if I need healthcare?

 

That's what the little electric carts are for

 

I did.

 

The MAJORITY of humans exist on a high carb diet, and the MAJORITY of humans are not obese.

The low carb/high protein thing is BS. It's a cheats way to avoid exercise. Carbs will only hurt you a) if they're refined, and b) you don't exercise. Complex carbs are the best food for instant energy and clean, complete burn - keeping metabolism fast and pumping.

 

Then if I just stop injecting myself with insulin twice daily the 50 lbs the doctor keeps telling me are going to be fatal someday will just melt away? ****, why didn't anyone tell me it was that easy?

 

I'm amazed to see how this poster clings to a fantasy that he made up, even after it was categorically debunked using his own link.

I bet that he has all that debunked him in his "Ignore" list. And for that reason he hasn't even realized it.

 

What's important is the balance, so regulations do serve the people's best interests, while intruding as little as possible on personal freedom.

 

That will ONLY happen if you a) eat refined carbs, and b) don't burn them off! You're talking about a very specific (and unlikely, if one is even remotely interested in health) set of circumstances which must be met.

And yes, that's the point of carbs - leaving you hungry after two hours. They burn completely and keep the metabolism working at peak efficiency. As LONG as you burn those carbs off, as mentioned.

This low carb thing is designed to appeal to people who don't want to exercise, and who have an appetite for calorie dense foods.

 

Better let the Japanese know. They eat white rice multiple times a day, and the whitest bread you've ever seen in your life.

What they DON'T do is eat a lot of meat and dairy.

 

The more something costs, the less of it you'll sell.

 

As I understand it diets of any kind are designed for people who either have no appetites of any kind for anything or like to suffer