Now there is evidence Michael Cohen lied about trip to Prague during the election

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  1. ronv

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    She did him a favor by telling him he was going to lose and look stupid.
    She was right. He looked stupid - twice.
     
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    Fake News Horse ****:

    UH-OH, THIS COULD BE THE END OF THE DEMS’ IMPEACHMENT PLANS:

    New Marist Poll finds more people will vote against a congressional candidate who promises to vote for impeachment than the reverse.

    Now that they are lost in Sexual McCarthyism, Americans are quite clear that this is all nonsense.
     
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    Eric Holder represented the Obama Administration in cases it lost. It's not a matter of whether the Trump Administration would've won or lost(and third's time the charm as you note.). It's a matter of whether someone is going to do their freaking JOB or not. She did him a favor in that she wasn't worthy of being attorney general. That was further known when we discovered she was one of the signees of the illegal FISA warrant.

    Good riddance to awful rubbish. Trump, through accident or design or both is doing a fantastic job of draining the swamp.
     
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    You are wrong. There are plenty of legal reasons why a lawyer for the DOJ can not defend an order that they know is illegal. That's why her replacement farmed it out at the last minute and it was ultimately withdrawn.
     
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    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    How would they know an order is illegal if it's not ruled as such? One cannot prejudge a judge's ruling before it happens, especially when there are other things such as court appeals, etc. There are only TWO reasons a lawyer(any lawyer) may excuse him/herself from her client:

    -If the client endangers the case or compromises the lawyer
    -Or if the Client/Lawyer feel that the relationship is beyond repair.

    And even then, you have to continue being counsel until they can find a replacement.

    She went off and QUIT. And none of you understand just how humiliating that is to the law profession. Sally Yates showed me she is the LAST person I want on earth representing me as counsel. Can you imagine? "The case is leaning against you, I'll bail."
     
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    Are you intentionally getting facts incorrect? She was fired. As Acting AG it was her decision to make, and several courts had already weighed in, thus the need to go to court.

    If you are going to avoid lawyers who quit on a client, you should get a list of former Trump lawyers.
     
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    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/04/pulling_out.html

    As you can see here, there are a select few reasons, and those reasons alone for why a lawyer might say "see ya" to a client lol. None among them is "I think you'll lose the case." Yates's argument, if it held any water would literally make the law industry(and that's what it is, an industry) morally bankrupt. I'd represent myself in a court of law sooner than trust someone who might bail even if I did all the right things.
     
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    What do you mean by "no excuse or legal reason"? Are you implying Yates broke the law? Granted she refused an order from the President, her boss, and was fired but no crime was committed. Nor did she make a mockery of anything. Lawyers and clients disagree all the time and clients have to seek new representation when they do. Also the courts ended up ruling that portions of the executive order were unconstitutional so she was kind of vindicated in the end.
     
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    "Oh, they all do it!" is an especially ineffective, self-serving defense strategy.

    This excellent background piece on Michale Cohen exposes his shady background, his murky Russia connections, and his intimate relationship with Trumpery:

    https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-michael-cohen

    It's understandable that Trump's cronies are very concerned that Trump's fixer will sing to save himself. His survival instinct seems quite healthy, and he must be well aware that, with Trump, loyalty is a one-way street.

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    How shady. How Clintonesque.
     
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    I fell into you, now I'm on my back, an insect decaying in your little trap - I squirm into you, now I'm in your gut - I fell into you, now I'm in a rush.....


    Lift you up like the sweetest angel, I'll tear you down like a whore.

    Mr. Cohen. Dirty dirty rockstar.
     
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    The fixation some have with personages of yore does not provide a credible defense either.

    Attempts at diversion via "whataboutism" also fail as a refuge.

    The fake claim of "attorney-client" privilege won't work either, as was the case with Trump's scumball campaign manager:

     
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    Selective prosecution is anti-American.
     
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    What would you expect from the left?
     
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    I know. It's in their DNA.
     
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    Ahh yet it wasn't illegal?
     
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    Gosh, and I wonder why Cohen dropped the law suit against Buzzfeed, when they published the Steele Dossier; https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-lawsuit-against-buzzfeed-over-steele-n867406

    As we continuously see the the infamous Nunes memo fall apart, with some of its sourcing being the Dossier, apparently Cohen just threw that whole narrative out the window for those who have still been trying to cling to the tails of mermaids and Unicorns.
     
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    It was. How did you get the impression it wasn't from my post?
     
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    Anyone who actually believes Mules turned over Cohen to the FBI with anything tied to Trump is an idiot. If it had anything to do with Trump and or collusion then it would have been his duty to stay on the case. You guys as usual are living in a pipe dream, can't win so find a reason to impeach. Just wait til the next time there's a dem president it's going to be ugly!
     
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    Comey Debunks the Steele Dossier
     
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    Can you expound on your homophobic hate speech?
     
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    If the Trump administration's appointed Special Counsel's patriotic mission results in criminal convictions and Trump's "Scooter Libby" paradigm reassures the criminals that they will not be taking a fall for refusing to expose Trump, Trump's blatant reassurance does not extend to the purview of the Trump-appointed US Assistant Attorney for Manhattan exposing non-federal crimes. Thus, Trump's slimeball fixer's incentive to sing.
     
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    Singling out criminals for criminal prosecution and satisfying probable cause for seizure of evidence with a judge is necessarily selective and eminently American.

    If evidence insufficient for criminal prosecution is uncovered, exoneration ensures.

    It is not a case of hyper-partisan crackpots screeching, "Lock him up! Lock him up!" without due process.
     
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    I read elsewhere on the interwebz that the man behind Cohen, seated near the window with the gray tie, is Jerry Rotonda, the Chief Financial Officer for Deutsche Bank. That bank also happens to be under investigation by Mueller. Maybe it's a coincidence he's there?
     
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    Wow.. .that's a stretch worthy of Gumby at a yoga class....

    American Thinker, huh? That's become a classic oxymoron....
     
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