Obama: All parties in Turkey should support Erdogan gov't

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by starcitizen, Jul 15, 2016.

  1. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Obama: All parties in Turkey should support Erdogan gov't

    http://www.usnews.com/news/politics...parties-in-turkey-should-support-erdogan-govt

    If there was ever any doubt there is not longer, Obama is a pro-Islamist traitor to secular constitutional democracy. Erdogan does not rule democratically, he has shut down and arrested media outlets who he doesn't like, he has pushed Turkey away from secular democracy at every turn, he has allowed Turkey to become the main route for ISIL pigs into Syria and Iraq without lifting a finger to stop it, he has arrested members of the military on false charges because he knows damn well that they are charged by the Turkish Constitution to maintain the secular nature of Turkey by force if necessary, and this is the man that Barack Hussein Obama the son and step son of a Muslim father just backed.

    Obama will now go down in history as the worst President in the history of the US and a traitor to Western civilization, at this point I don't really care who wins but November can not come soon enough, for all her faults not even Hillary supports the destruction of the free world the way that Obama does.
     
  2. Jim Rockford

    Jim Rockford Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2015
    Messages:
    2,944
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Said this was Obozos' stance on Turkey in another thread hours ago. Obozo supports the Erdogan Caliphate.

    O muzzie.jpg
     
  3. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    He is a traitor to western civilization and secular constitutional democracy. He is on the side of our enemies.
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    32,300
    Likes Received:
    4,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Obama like Bill Clinton knows which way the wind is blowing. He also wants to free himself from suspicions that the coup was another one of Washington's regime changes... which it was of course.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    23,332
    Likes Received:
    902
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    So instead of supporting a president who has been abusing his position we now are going to support a military coup who literally is just taking power? Ignoring how Turkey is a US ally who just normalized relations with Israel, another US ally what would the US gain from this? The US needs Turkey to be stable to help with the refugee crisis. We need stability because Turkey has airbases there that we use to attack ISIS.
     
  6. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    11,096
    Likes Received:
    3,393
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Smart of Obama to say. I really don't see what other options he had


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  7. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is Operation Valkyrie and Obama just supported Hitler.
     
  8. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    23,332
    Likes Received:
    902
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    1. Drop off the Nazi reference. That analogy doesn't even make any sense. Better examples exist.
    2. Why would the US support a coup of an ally?
     
  9. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    38,778
    Likes Received:
    12,932
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How foolish if you. What we ( US) want and need is for Turkeybto be stable. Turkey is a NATO ally and we do not need a NATO ally go go unstable. This has nothing to do with Islaimism by Obama.

    You raw uncontrolled hatred of POTUS BO has corrupted your ability to make a rational thought.
     
  10. Bmulvihill

    Bmulvihill New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2016
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I think Obama is pragmatic to realize that despite the abuses of Erdogan and his administration, Turkey remains an ally in the region and supporting a hostile military takeover of the country would not only be irresponsible but would set a dangerous precedent. A military coup is not the way to right what is wrong with the country. Additionally, siding against the opposition force does not imply wholesale approval of the administrations policies.
     
  11. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Turkey is a NATO ally, the secular Turkish military is a NATO ally, Erdogan is not a NATO ally he is an ally to the Islamists who NATO is at war with. This was Operation Valkyrie and Obama just backed Hitler.
     
  12. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I have already told you what you can do with your laughable neo-Nazi conspiracy theory Jew hating websites, until you provide the UN Report with the relevant quotes you will be ignored.
     
  13. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    38,778
    Likes Received:
    12,932
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When Trump was asked to comment on the coup in Turkey he said " I love turkey . I love turkey so much that we have turkey almost every Sunday not just on Turkey Day" .
     
  14. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    32,300
    Likes Received:
    4,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    This is from Sputnik:

    State television channel TRT reports that 4 soldiers have been arrested for the coup attempt, including one who was high-ranked. At least 13 people were detained while attempting to capture the presidential palace in Ankara, including high-ranking members.

    Several servicemen have been injured and killed, according to Special Forces Command commander Major General Zekai Aksakalli.

    Anadolu news agency reported earlier that 17 police officers were killed during clashes.

    The prime minister described the attempt as an act of rebellion by followers of US-based Muslim cleric Fethullah Gullen.
     
  15. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Do you know what Operation Valkyrie was? The analogy is so apt it's scary.

    The Constitutional Democracy of Turkey is a NATO ally, the secular Turkish military is a NATO ally, Erdogan who has destroyed the Constitutional Turkish Democracy is not a NATO ally he is an ally to the Islamists who NATO is at war with.
     
  16. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It's bull(*)(*)(*)(*) TRT is now in the control of Erdogan supporters but the military has finally taken CNN Turk which allowed the Islamist pig Erdogan to broadcasts, the military is holding Ankara these protesters are Islamists beckoned by their mosque loud speakers to support the tyrant Erdogan, normal citizens listened to the military and obeyed the curfew order they issued, when the sun comes up we will get a clearer picture.
     
  17. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    87,117
    Likes Received:
    11,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    we dont even know who the coup leaders are and what their agenda is.

    they may be ISIS-supporters.
     
  18. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    23,332
    Likes Received:
    902
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    No it's not. You can come up with a better example. It doesn't even make any sense. That was internal, this is external. A better example would be how the US supported the coup in Chile in the 1970's against the Socialist Allende.

    1. Turkey is a key player in the region, the Edrogan administration for years has been against the Assad regime and trying to remove him from power. Only recently has that position softened. That also doesn't explain the normalization of negotiations with Israel or how Turkey needs to be stable in order to prevent an even greater refugee crisis from emerging.
    2. To somehow say that Daesh militants share the same ideology as Turkey's Muslims is a very strange case to make, if not flat out ignorant.
     
  19. Severian

    Severian New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2016
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Didn't Obama pretty much say the same thing when the Egyptian military forced the Islamists out of power a couple of years ago? Looks to me like the Turkish military is trying to save their country from the Muslim Brotherhood fascists that have been running things there for the past several years.

    One thing, this just about guarantees that Turkey will not see an EU membership anytime in the next few decades.
     
  20. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Wtf are you talking about this is an internal military couple against a tyrannical ruler who came to power through democratic means. That was an apt analogy.


    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) Erdogan is an Islamist attempting to destroy secular constitutional democracy, and he had allowed Turkey to become the main route for ISIL into Syria and Iraq.
     
  21. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,246
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    0
    http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/2015/177

    Bonus:

    Reports by UN observers in the Golan submitted to 15 members of Security Council detail regular contact between IDF officers and armed Syrian opposition figures at the border.
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.630359
     
  22. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2015
    Messages:
    28,126
    Likes Received:
    19,400
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So Obama is on the side of the theocratic dictator?

    We shouldn't be shocked. He did this with Iran, too.
     
  23. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2011
    Messages:
    23,332
    Likes Received:
    902
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    What do you think happened in Chile?

    There's no question that Erdogan's AKP has pushed for more religion in politics, and his questionable to say the least tactics of silencing the press have been a major issue. But that's not the US's fault, that's actually the EU's. In order to join the EU you have to abide by certain rules, one of them is a stable democracy. Turkey has been that for years trying to join the EU buy they don't for many different reasons, one of which is because of democracy but another one is because of politics. Turkey would be a major player in the EU, and that's hard to have with so many players already. Plus there's also islamophobia.

    So it makes sense that for Turkey to advance economically that it should strengthen ties with the MENA countries aligned with the US. In order to do that, you're going to adopt the beliefs in the area. This isn't the US's fault, if you want to point a finger, a better one would be the EU. Even then that's still a stretch.
     
  24. starcitizen

    starcitizen Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    1,114
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    ISIL couldn't be happier with Erdogan he's they're go to guy.
     
  25. Michael Corleone

    Michael Corleone Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2015
    Messages:
    1,183
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So why isn't Obama supporting Syria's election in 2014?
     

Share This Page