Obama: All parties in Turkey should support Erdogan gov't

Armed Syrian Opposition does not mean ISIL way to fail. I support Israel's support with the Peshmerga as I support all support of the Peshmerga who are even more important in Syrian and more trustworthy than segments of the FSA, your understanding and ability to critically anayze your joke sources is the worst I've seen on this forum and that says a lot.

 

I have news for you. Erdogan is a supporter of Al Nusra, the same Al Nusra that Israel supports and treats in its hospitals as guards to the Golan Heights. Erdogan in addition to Al Nusra, was also supporting ISIS by buying its oil and shipping it to the Ukraine, Israel, Japan and 25 more countries. It's a family business. The transactions and trucks are handled by his son Bilal, his other son owns the tankers and his daughter Sumeyye is in charge of the hospital in Turkey that ISIS's wounded are being treated at.


Peek - A - Boo!

 

The UN is a joke source? Is MSM in Israel a joke source too?


New UN report reveals collaboration between Israel and Syrian rebels

The new documents show that Israel has been doing more than simply treating wounded Syrian civilians in hospitals....

(UNDOF) reveals that Israel has been working closely with Syrian rebels in the Golan Heights and have kept close contact over the past 18 months. The report was submitted to the UN Security Council at the beginning of the month.

The documents show that Israel has been doing more than simply treating wounded Syrian civilians in hospitals. This and a few past reports have described transfer of unspecified supplies from Israel to the Syrian rebels, and sightings of IDF soldiers meeting with the Syrian opposition east of the green zone...
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/New...-rebels-383926

 

1) Syria's elected government is not a theocratic Islamic) dictatorship. Obama prefers that form of government.

2) Syria's government has been involved in mass killings of innocent civilians.

 

Fidan the head of the MIT said over a year ago, it was a shame that an organization such as ISIS which is very popular and has a fully functioning government, doesn't have a consulate in Istanbul to represent them.

 

False analogy, Pinochet had authority from the Chilean Chamber of deputies and the Chilean Supreme Court to oust Allende. I have not seen Supreme Court support for the Turkish military and the Turkish opposition parties have actually denounced the coup, this seems to be them acting on their own the same as Colonel Stauffenberg against Hitler so again the analogy is apt.

You don't need to become a theocracy to do business with theocracies.

 

As has Turkeys.

 

If the military doesn't win this coup, Turkey is done. They'll be an Iranian clone within 5 years.

 

No your original sources claiming that it was ISIL are a joke source no where in the Haaretz article does it mention ISIL and neither does the UN Report which I have also read I just enjoy making you look stupid. So again and this is the final time, either provide the quotes from the UN Report stating that Israel is negotiating explicitly ISIL or you will be ignored.

 

You mean a military that had been numerous times been trying to overthrow Allende like how the military overthrows the Turkish government?

Of course not, but it helps to share a common religion together.

 

How can you believe that Syria's government has been involved in mass killings of innocent civilians, when there is an actual genocide going on against Christians by ISIS and Al Nusra and the MSM has never reported it? Also when all the hospitals that Assad and Russia was supposedly bombing are non existent?

Whatever information they have is from the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights, a one man organization established by the British MI6 and supported by the British government, and run by someone who was kicked out of Syria by Assad?

In addition the 'white helmets' who are helping survivors from the so alleged bombings are known terrorists and the photos have been proven as fakes.


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Turkey will cease to exist in two years. Erdogan can't kill and ethnically cleanse 20 million Kurds no matter how much he tries... and believe me he has. The PKK is now in total control of certain areas in Turkey... there is continuous warfare.

There are also about 10 million Alevis not to mention the millions of crypto Christians who pretended to convert rather than leave ...so it's only a matter of time before Erdogan makes a wrong move.

All the jets and landing ships he keeps buying will do him nothing if Russia feels its freedom of passage in the Aegean is being threatened.
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Turkey is a NATO ally. We really can't just let a military coup happen there and not say or do something.

 

If Obama had been more supportive of Erdogan in a more timely fashion Erdogon might not have abandoned the entirely secular approach to leadership he held previously.

The kind of leadership one sees in countries with high Muslim populations are due to the nature of those populations, we are finally (some of us, anyway) beginning to realize. Let enough of them in here and you will see the exact same sort of thing...in fact, the Patriot Act was the beginning of that.

 

I forgot that the Turkish government has the top law firm in the US as lobbyists ...This would account for Obama's support of Erdogan. Money talks!

 

Who holds Ankara? Erdogan has Istanbul. Nobody has eyes on Ankara.

 

It looks like Ankara has fallen.

 

Obama's Muslim Brotherhood White House talking points, nothing more.

 

while I don't care for Obama, I think he got the right idea... don't let another government in the middle east collapse... thats the whole reason we have the mess in iraq and syria... if anything take time and encourage people to oust the leader through elections, but don't let the government itself collapse because that will just cause another middle east country to become open game for all the terrorists and secular groups to lay claim to lands and start fighting with everyone... imagine how different the world would look today if we allowed saddam hussein to remain in power, he would have continued to kill the terrorists in his country that we're now trying to kill, and they wouldn't be our problem, they would still be fighting with local governments and not have a care in the world for us... but we keep screwing with people supporting groups in their countries to rise up against them because we think toppling leaders is a good idea, maybe finally someone learned from our lessons and decided, leave them alone...

 

Selective memory?

 

Operation Valkyrie was a major operation planned by multiple higher ups in the Nazi army to kill Hitler with a briefcase bomb and to take control of the government following the assassination so they could come to a peaceful surrender with the allied countries. The suitcase detonated just feet away from Hitler but it didn't kill him die to the massive hard wood table the suitcase was under, it shielded him perfectly. Following the incident all of those involved were either shot on the spot, or hung with piano wire.

This also seems internal, as in the military trying to assassinate Erdogan, they bombed his house. They also bombed parliament. It was a pretty good example on the other guys part.

 

Allende was part of the defense of presidential palace when the military overthrew him.

 

What? What?



As soon as the Turks tried to overthrow Erdogan, the US and the European Union called for "moderation and peace," and said that the armed coups are unacceptable, and the overthrow of democratically elected dictators can not ....

Where were all these "Defenders of the constitution", when a crowd of radical Islamists killing Muammar Gaddafi? Watched live shows and was happy?
Or, tell me where they were 22 February 2014, when an armed crowd of neo-Nazi militants seized the building of the Parliament of Ukraine and carried out a coup, overthrowing the democratically elected president?

All Western political leaders can cause nothing but contempt.

 

whats the selective memory?

I think for once someone I oppose, made the right decision, I'm not afraid to acknowledge someone I oppose, made the right call in this instance...

 

Obama defending erdogan.

Did you feel pain obama? You nearly lost yiur isis friends.

Usa likes isis obama give them usa tax money vs assad.

But dont worry. Russia kill them. Bomb them. Then you usa. Cant run forever.