Obama & Ryan have SAME Medicare Cuts

Great! Be a sport though, would ya. Please post a link to Romney's plan so that we may evaluate it to confirm what you said is true. Cause no offense, your NOT running for POTUS, so I don't really care if YOU said this. I DO care if Romney says it though. Cause the last thing he said is that when he becomes POTUS, he will sign Ryan's PATH TO POVERTY budget immediately.

 

Obama CUT IT. Unarguable. Done deal. Dollars gone. Seniors screwed.

Ryan, who isn't going to be President, might cut it in some similar magnitude but different priority IF he sells it to Romney and Congress and....

A child can see the difference. A leftwad ideologue, not so much.

 

But don't you see who confusing that point was that you just tried to make? At best, Obama can argue he's only as bad as RomRy on medicare. At worst, he's the only one to actually cut funding for current seniors. And both have to admit that medicare needs to be restructured as it's on the path the bankruptcy.

RomRy can say they are trying to save it. They can also say, as Ryan has, that Obama's budget never even attempted to save it. They've at least made attempts.

Romney has a ton of money waiting to be unleashed, and he can put multiple ads together on this topic, much like he's done is the primary campaigns. On issues where he's week, he's learned to exploit the unknown weaknesses of his opponents and fight to a draw. I've come to admire him as of late and his war tactics.

At best this is a draw, and I actually think seniors will gravitate toward Romney. The fact is, Obama blew it by trying to balance Obamacare using medicare funds.

 

Really. Interesting - and stupidly defeatable - comment.

Tell me, head of cabbage: how could Ryan be destroying Medicare - and Obama not - if Ryan's cuts are the same as Obama's, as the OP you suckingly sucked up to claims?

Tell me the true, head of lettuce.

 

The title here is only partly right. Ryan's budget did include those same cuts, which mainly target Bush's Medicare Advantage expansion (the unfunded costly diversion of funds to private insurers, the same one Ryan voted for), and of course now Ryan is flip flopping, saying he didn't really mean to endorse those cuts.

But Ryan's plan is nothing like the Medicare waste cuts Obama enacted. Ryan's plan guts benefits to seniors, eventually costing them $6,500, according to the CBO, while making health care more expensive, diverting "savings" to private insurers and tax cuts for the wealthy. That's theft, anyway you look at it.

 

So did Obama, but who actually voted for the cuts by voting for the ACA Wally? Talking about it and actually doing it are two vastly different things. Ryan talked about it but Obama and the Democrats actually cut Medicare $700+ Billion dollars. Note: Not a single Republican in the House voted for the ACA, including Ryan. The Democrats own the Medicare cuts and will wear them like 700 million millstones around their collective necks in November.

 

This is true. Woe to the left!

 

What Medicare waste cuts were made? No more exams for rectal cancer and no more mammograms for women under 50? There's $60 to $90 billion in fraud in the Medicare system, yet Holders DOJ is catching under 7% of the cheaters. There would be a great place to start. What a failure this administration is.

 

Did you pull that out of your rectum?

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/261524-differences-obama-ryans-medicare-policies.html

 

Untouched by leftwads.

I know it hurts.

 

Actually no. Now that the truth has come out about (R)yan's budget, where wants to make the EXACT SAME CUTS as Obama, (R)omney & (R)yan will avoid this conversation like the plague.

 

I'm glad you asked PP!

The bolded portion in the quote above is only true, of course, until (R)yan turns Medicare into a Voucher program and completely destroys it as his original PATH TO POVERTY stated in the first place.

 

Because both Obama's & (R)yan's cuts DON"T CUT MEDICARE BENEFITS TO SENIORS. Only Medicare waste. Until (R)yan & (R)omney turn Medicare into a voucher program and destroy it completely. Which has been a conservative wet dream for years now.

I thought you cons were all for cutting the waste in Government.

 

Sorry, wrong side of the groin, my bad. Obama Care also pushes Mammogram screening from starting at 40 to 50.

 

Ryan's plan is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT,and offers today's seniors OPTIONS, that Obamacare does not.

 

But future seniors can (*)(*)(*)(*) off, eh Grok?

 

Let me see if I get this straight. Liberals are painting a picture of Ryan's plan being "Death to Medicare", yet you are claiming Obamacare has the exact same cuts. So, are you claiming Obama brought "Death to Medicare"? I am not sure how Ryan is going to kill something that is already dead.

 

And since the Ryan plan is not on the table that means Obama is all by himself when it comes to cutting Medicare.

How nice of Walter to confirm that for the record.

 

Is Obama running against a VP again? What is wrong the Republicans? They need to focus on the guy who is running for Pres before this turns into the type of situation we saw with Palin vs Obama instead of McCain vs Obama.

 

Speaking as one arch-Conservative, I wish the government would get completely out of the health industry altogether. Unfortunately, hyperlib Democrat Lyndon Johnson put the Medicare system into existence way back in the 1960's. Ever afterward, people have been forced by law to pay into this half-assed government system -- but now -- thanks to Comrade Obama, $750 Billon dollars of the Medicare fund are being STOLEN to pay for an even worse socialized medicine combine called "Obamacare".


No matter how many shell-games and gyrations the hyperlibs use to rationalize it, this is nothing but a stinking, pandering effort by Libocrats to buy votes from ~38 million people who don't, or won't pay for their own healthcare! "OH, but it's a TAX! Everybody will pay!", the Obamanite media tell us, but -- think! Those people that aren't paying Federal taxes now, will just be given Obamacare for FREE! I've pointed this out numerous times, and not one single hyperlib will even respond to the truth of the statement.

Bottom line: people who have been forced by law to pay into a system like Medicare all their lives are now being robbed so that it can be given to a bunch of bustout moochers for NOTHING but their votes. "Granny" isn't being pushed over a cliff -- she's being robbed by a hyperliberal Democrat regime run by Comrade Obama!

 

Biden has been in the news just as much as Ryan...want a refresher?

 

Not even Nasty Pelosi could do that!