Obamacare fail! Affordable Care Act not so affordable.

Leave it to the states. The Federal government has no authority in this area, the SCOTUS' opinion was ridiculous.

On a state level you should make it so emergency rooms can refuse anyone they want. If you don't want health insurance that's fine, I get it - but don't come into my house and steal my stuff when your gamble goes wrong.

Just get your pitchfork-carrying mob together, go to their houses, and take all their stuff.

It's like I've been on death row for 20 years. If you're going to kill me, then kill me. It's all the waiting that I can't stand.

 

I know how you feel. Many decisions by SCOTUS have been ridiculous of late but I don't plan to shut down the government or stop paying our bills because of my objections.

I do agree with that on the death penalty but I do prefer that thugs suffer a lifetime for their actions.

 

I wouldn't vote for any bill I view as unconstitutional. Appropriations aren't exempt from that. I guess it's lucky that I'm not in government.

What I said had nothing to do with the death penalty, I was using that to describe how I feel about the current state of property rights. If I have a property right to the fruits of my labor, then leave me alone. If I don't have a property right to the fruits of my labor, then hurry up and take my property. Stop taking it inch by inch, it's torture.

 

Nice to see the eunuch palace guard press (NYT) finally publishing the truth about the most incompetent executive this country has ever had. The FAIL is pervasive, expensive, and maybe worst, well documented BEFORE LAUNCH. They knew it was a POS. They Knew it was pure FAIL. And they plowed ahead, full throttle, into the mountain. Morons.

Why does Cruella Sebelius still have a job?

These clowns will hold sway over your health care, not just your health insurance, soon enough. How can they possible be trusted? How could anyone expect the level of Big Fed health care to rise above utter crap? You cannot. Crap is the default.

 

We're retired. My husband had a stroke and has severe diabetes.

 

The San Jose Mercury News quoted one Cindy Vinson, an Obamacare supporter, who was disconcerted to learn that she will have to pay $1,800 more a year for an individual policy. “Of course, I want people to have health care,” she said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/360955/obamacare-rollout-train-wreck-rich-lowry

She might not have realized it because the president of the United States never mentions it. In all his speeches about Obamacare, he never quite gets around to the part about some premiums going up, which for people forced to pay more will probably be the most salient feature of the law.

But hey, what possibly could go wrong?

 

more like 500 dollars a month....

 

You still haven't been able to vent all that hate have you? Must really be butt hurt.

And, now that your party has really stepped in poop, I suppose you're going to come up with more hateful comments, and nothing of substance.

Enjoy the beating your dumb party is going to face in 2014. People don't forget that soon what a sorry ass party did to them.

 

Heritage Foundation (Republican, isn't it) had a lot to do with what's in it. But, no, Repubicans aren't going to get credit for it when everyone finds out it's a success.

You got that bassawkwards. It's the Reps that try and twist everything. Like trying to blame the Dems for the shutdown.
Suck it up, you all caused it and now you will pay for it! Bwahahaha, start crying.

Oh, they were invited, but being the party that thought if they turned down everything, Obama would fail, have now found out, that he not only was re-elected, but people are more on his side than on the dumb GOP side.

If that's what you think, then maybe you're dumb representatives shouldn't have played the "NO" card and gotten involved to make it better (if they could, which I doubt) - so don't blame the Dems for the inability of your dumb party to know what to do.

 

I'm going to predict the words " I'm an Independent" will be a rebuttal....

 

Yep! The Independents just increased their numbers!

 

I see the trolls are alive and well on this forum.

OK mertex, please back up your flame bait post with which republicans were invited to the healthcare debate when the democrats formed and initiated it?

 

Everyone of them. There were so many markups that every republican participated, offered amendments and had some accepted. Someone mentioned 200 GOP amendments were accepted. I am not sure of that numbers but GOP Grassley got one to throw the lawmakers and staff onto the Exchanges.

 

And so continues the he said she said and hate each other political game.

I would say the Dems started it by not bringing a single republican to vote on the ACA, however I am not naive enough to think it hasn't been going on a long, long time....

 

I would say that republicans not voting for ACA made their own grave. I would also say that they tried very hard to change a bill that they were never going to vote for. "In fact, hundreds of Republican amendments were adopted during the committee mark-up process." http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-care-meeting/republican-ideas

 

Glad to hear you're alive and well. Now quit the trolliing!

Facts are not "flame bait" - I know they inflame you but that does not make for a flame bait post. Now learn to use Google and don't expect others to do your research for you.

Wikipedia:
The idea goes back as far as 1989, when it was initially proposed by the conservative Heritage Foundation as an alternative to single-payer health care.[50] It was championed by many Republican politicians as a market-based approach to healthcare reform on the basis of individual responsibility. Specifically, because the 1986 Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) requires any hospital participating in Medicare (which nearly all do) to provide emergency care to anyone who needs it, the government often indirectly bore the cost of those without the ability to pay.



Also, Republicans have been desperately trying to do away with it not because of what they say, that it is a failure, but because they are afraid that it will make them come out as the failures, when it proves to be a success and better than what we had before.

The Affordable Health Care Act is the law that was upheld by the Supreme Court (I refuse to call it Obamacare because that fuels the Obama haters). Republican politicians continue to rant and rave against the law but refuse to work to make it stronger.
http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20130918/OPINION/309180007/The-GOP-ACA-USA

 

You can not give us your words on your opposition so you use an image?

 

I see you've learned the trade of twisting things around like your Republican leaders have taught you.

What do you mean Dems did not bring a single republicann to vote on the ACA. Every Republican in Congress had the same privilege of voting on it and they declined. How is that the Dem's fault?

 

Post it, or move on

 

What's the matter? Don't know how to use Google? He gave you the link on post #91.

 

Holy crap... It's my money, not yours to dictate how I spend it!

 

Why would Republicans in Congress not want to participate in a program which most of it was taken from what they had first concocted? Because they are obstinate, and dumb.


Summary Of A 1993 Republican Health Reform Plan

FEB 23, 2010
In November, 1993, Sen. John Chafee, R-R.I., introduced what was considered to be one of the main Republican health overhaul proposals: "A bill to provide comprehensive reform of the health care system of the United States."
Titled the "Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act of 1993," it had 21 co-sponsors, including two Democrats (Sens. Boren and Kerrey). The bill, which was not debated or voted upon, was an alternative to President Bill Clinton's plan. It bears similarity to the Democratic bill passed by the Senate Dec. 24, 2009, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2010/february/23/gop-1993-health-reform-bill.aspx

 

Not if we're having to cover your ass when you go to the ER for medical treatment.