Obamacare: Trump asks Supreme Court to invalidate Affordable Care Act

Yes, that was whole purpose of ACA. That is actually why Obama was elected.
People were suffering big time and many filed for medical bankruptcies.

 

What ramifications?
I just do not understand WHY people are against universal access to the government managed health care system.
The only reason I can see is that they will not bee able to feel good about themselves, in case if everyone is covered.

 

How do you think Universal healthcare is funded?

 

That was why Obama was elected? Oh my, I think we've found your disconnect....

 

The same way currently Medicare is funded, government prints money and pays for Medicare.

 

Have you read anything about what happens when the government runs healthcare, besides the obvious competency factor, and makes judgements about who should receive what care, or where?

The idea that you think it's emotion based, once again, means you are not looking at what is actually involved when the government makes decisions on a subject that is between the patient and their doctor.

 

I can explain it to you, but obviously I can't make you understand it.

What happens when the government 'prints money'? Who controls the 'printing of money'? What is the effect on the economy when the government 'prints money'?

 

huh? you make no sense at this point.

1) i have never said i am opposed to “universal” healthcare...but you need to define that for me

2) when did i say i want people to lose their life savings?

 

Government runs Medicare, what is a problem with Medicare?
Decisions are made by doctors.

I just do not understand why (so called conservatives) want to ban people younger then 65 from accessing government managed health care.
The only explanation I have is, those people want to have feeling of upper class or something similar.

 

But government is printing money anyway to cover the cost of Medicare.
if everyone has access to Medicare government does not have to print more.
People will pay their premiums not to the private insurance but to the government.
Since we eliminate profit hungry middle man (insurance company) the cost of premium will be reduced and government gets more money.
If government gets more money it will have to print less money.

 

If you support current system of health care profiteering, then you are opposed.

 

i will never be opposed to doctors and nurses making a profit for their work

 

That is root cause of the problem.
People wants doctors make extraordinary amount for money for mediocre services.
The only way to make such amount of money is to limit resources and accessibility.
That is exactly what is happening.
You should have said honestly, that you are working in that profiteering system and you do not want anyone to access it.

 

docs get paid, like lawyers, bricklayers and basketball players...by their skill level

 

Nope, doctors are getting paid extraordinary amount of money because government creates artificial doctor shortage.

 

oh..because they require people to pass examines? you know have some basics before they cut you open?

 

i tell ya what...nothing keeps you from going to whoever you want for your medical issue.

go to them

i’ll go to mine. he might cost more, but does a great job

 

If someone is from the low/no income group, they do have access to Medicaid. There is also clinics, immediate care facilities with sliding scales, and the ER.

I have to wonder why some liberal leaning folk feel that everybody should accept what they want, regardless if they want it or not, and demand everybody pay for what they think is right, regardless of facts proving otherwise. It must be a control thing.

 

Here's a novel idea: how about people pay the provider directly, without insurance, or the government sucking off the top layers, as they attempt to tell people what the can or cannot do with their own bodies, and the health care decisions will be between exactly who it should always be between: the patient and the doctor.

 

No, the government actually sets the limit of medical doctors, regardless of exams.

 

I am not liberal leaning. I just feel that people like you are stealing from me, people like you actually artificially want to lower my life quality standards.
It is not that I want, but it is a matter of my survival, so I have to fight for my life as much as I can. The point is to show everyone that you have zero arguments, about why current predatory system should stay.
If no one can pays for medical expenses full price out of pocket and EVERYONE get subsidy from the government, why should we have a middle man, that takes away our income.
You know that no one can pay directly to providers, because government makes health care very expensive, that is exactly why system should change.

 

McCain showed his hate ruled over campaign promises.

 

It is up to congress. First they have to get rid of Obama care

 

Yeh, when your dying it makes you an honorable man.

 

Whatever happened to the promise that Trump would repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better, cheaper and would cover pre-ex? You cannot get rid of something unless there is something to replace it. To do that would leave millions without any coverage and be victims of the insurance carriers.

So, I ask again - what is Trump's plan?