Obesity Solved

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  1. Xandufar

    Xandufar Active Member Past Donor

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    Princeton University researchers have shown that growing obesity is correlated with more high fructose corn syrup in our diet.

    Most of our sugar used to be the stuff we put in our coffee, until the government put tariffs on sugar imports, and subsidies on corn grown at home. Now it’s cheaper to use high fructose corn syrup. It’s in much of what we consume.

    High fructose corn syrup, like regular sugar, is made of mostly fructose molecules and glucose molecules, but, unlike regular sugar, the two molecules are separated. In regular sugar, we have to go through an extra metabolic step to separate the two molecules. That uses energy. In high fructose corn syrup, the sugar is directly absorbed. No wonder we now have a generation of Americans that, for the first time, are expected to have shorter lives than their parents.

    Rats fed high sucrose corn syrup grew fat, while rats fed the same diet with regular sugar did not.

    http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/

    No more excuses for people that need to lose weight. Quit drinking all that soda pop, and consuming other crap loaded with high fructose corn syrup!

    The fact that you didn’t hear about this on the news is probably because Monsanto, "the most evil corporation in the world" owns the patent on genetically modified seed that is used to grow most of the corn. Follow the money. Maybe the first step in a viable health care program is taking on Monsanto.

    If any conservatives think this is just a liberal issue, they should consider the fact that the armed forces are finding it increasingly difficult to recruit because of rampant obesity.
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I'm a conservative, and I have no doubt in the world that you are correct. I can remember soft drinks pre HFCS. A person would be hard-pressed to drink more than 12 oz of it at a time. Now, with HFCS, it's easy to drink a big gulp of soda. From what I've read, the main problem is that HFCS doesn't provide the same satiation response that sucrose does. Due to that, we can consume much more of it than we could sucrose.
     
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    This is only ONE aspect of growing obesity.. Others are portion control, reduction in carbs, increased fruits and vegetables.

     
  4. Xandufar

    Xandufar Active Member Past Donor

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    I think you guys have important parts of the puzzle. When I was a kid, a large soda at McDonald's was 16 ounces, a medium was 12 ounces, and a small was 8 ounces. Now 16 ounces is a small. I remember when 7-11 started selling 32 ounce "big gulp" self-serve pop. It seemed revolutionary. I'll never forget the first time I saw a co-worker walk out of 7-11 with a 44-ouncer. It was shaped kind of like a milk carton. It was such a ridiculous spectacle I laughed myself silly. Now it's hum-drum.

    But don't forget it used to be made with regular sugar.

    Portion control is an issue, but we still have the same access to fruits and vegetables we had before obesity became an epidemic. All things considered, the key variable is high-fructose corn syrup. The evidence is clear. As peridocahas pointed out above, high-fructose corn syrup "doesn't provide the same satiation response that sucrose does." That would help to explain the loss of portion control.

    I blame Monsanto. They have a near monopoly on corn production; they have enormous leverage in government, and they ruthlessly silence their opposition. What they're doing is a crime of immeasureable proportions. Personally, I'm on a crusade to get their crap out of my diet. I pity obese children who don't have a clue. Every parent should know what they're feeding their kids.
     
  5. spt5

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    This is a VERY important thread.

    But who can take on monsters such as Monsanto? I think we are doomed. I am a skinny guy, and nothing frustrates me more than when an overweight woman decides to have sex with me. This is one of the major reasons why I decided to plan the rest of my life outside the United States.

    Obesity is an agression and an insult to the very few that are still skinny. With this Monsanto news, we now know that we will never get better.
     
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    Eat less, move more.

    Next ...
     
  7. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Please do.

    Obesity is an aggression and an insult? What kind of crap is that?
     
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    Fruits and vegetables make me (*)(*)(*)(*)!!:mrgreen:
     
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    Not that big of a crap, actually. The psychology of obseity is based upon replacing self discipline and boundaries with compulsive behavior, induced by giving up on healthy rewarding activities, and then, taking these compulsions out on other people.
     
  10. perdidochas

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    I still don't understand the "logic" that obesity is aggression. It still makes no sense. I can understand that it is self-loathing, or from weak well, but aggressive makes no sense.
     
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    Maybe I can explain this better in terms of relationships with obese women. Most people think that it is a woman's age that may be a barrier to sex, but I have proof to the opposite, proof that even if a woman is as old as 30+ (or one time 59, tripple my age), her slim shape will shrug off all possible aging by the way of positioning.

    HOWEVER, if she is not slim but overweight, no matter her age, there is absolutely no way on God's green Earth that she can make that disappear in bed. As a result, the whole good time turns into a "beating" that I will have to ride out then. This is the agression part. Since 50 % of women in the USA are overweight, 50 % of my time is expected to be trapped in this agression in the USA. Why doesn't this get any attention in the media and academia?
     
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    That is total crap. I still don't buy the aggressive stuff, as it makes no sense. You need to lay off the bong.

    Also, if you have that hangup, stay away from overweight women.
     
  13. waltky

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    Uncle Ferd gonna be glad to hear `bout dis one...

    ... he's out onna town with one o' his fat g/f's...

    ... now dey can slim down an he'll have a skinny g/f...

    ... Granny says Hell must be gettin' ready to freeze over.
    :omg:
     
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    Mebbe its a combo of iron deficiency and hormones...
    ;)
    Do hunger hormones make us fat?
    20 March 2012 - Research into the hormones that control our appetite may offer new ways to help fight obesity, according to scientists investigating how the brain helps regulate what we eat.
     
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    Obese seniors at risk of mental decline...
    :shock:
    Obesity harms 'later brain skill'
    21 March 2012 - A high BMI was linked to lower cognitive scores
     
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    obesity is gonna take the place of smoking to help indemnify the people we are supposed to hate I see
     
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    I knew there are alot of fat ass women in America but, 50%? Jeez, that explains the recent epidemic of "erectile dysfunction". But don't worry, Big Pharma is here to convince you that it's all your fault you can't get a boner for Shamu, and here's a pill to fix it.
     
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    ultimately true

    calories in - calories used

    some get more calories from the same amount of food

    some use more calories then others doing the same activities

    but the math is the same
     
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    Some if not many people want to be fat. Even with all the knowledge showing them the dangers of unhealthy eating they continue to do so. They have no discipline and gorge themselves.

    Unfourtantly, they seem to be multiplying, quicker than the healthy eaters.
     
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    Well, smoking is not exactly making others around you comfortable, neither does obesity. The more natural comfort we give up for the human experience, the more we go from surviving to just enduring. I am skinny, so why do 50 % of women want to reduce my choice pool by getting fat when for 1000 years only VERY few people were fat? This is unfair. Fat people are unfair.
     
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    The cure for obesity has been known for centuries. Eat less, drink less, exercise more. The fact that you didn't hear about this in the news is you apparently get your news from Daily Kos or Ed Schultz. I heard about it on the news on the internet and read about it on the internet and I thought it was tupid then, too.

    When you can safely exclude all liberals from military service that only leaves you with 75% of the male population to choose from.
     
  22. IgnoranceisBliss

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    There are plenty of fat dudes to take these large ladies off your hands. Hell, today you can stick out from the pack just by working out and eating right. Show up with some muscle mass and abs and you'll be WAY ahead of the game. :)
     
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    Kidney cancer rise connection to obesity...
    :?
    Kidney cancers: Major rise 'linked to obesity'
    30 March 2012 - Being obese increase the risk of several cancers
     
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    don't see a lot of fatties in the Sudan.
     
  25. FreshAir

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    "Smoking rates in the UK have fallen over the last 35 years, but overweight and obesity levels are rising "

    him, so attacks on smoking have caused people to become overweight... thus a risk for cancer...
     

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