Oh about that mass mail in drop box voting

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    "After the 'tougher-on-crime' candidate lead by 10,000 votes in Chicago's Cook County State's Attorney race, 10,000 mail-in ballots were found due to ‘human error’ "

    Now, the race is separated by only 1% of votes

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1773165324772286746

    Oh Mayor Daley, who reportedly said "just let me get my hands on the ballots..." must be laughing in his grave.

    What about the canard that fraudulent votes don't matter because there is no "widespread" voter fraud? How safe is mail-in voting where the voter loses control of their ballot and does not actually cast it? This election is down to less than a 1% spread, "too close to call".

    10,000 votes just magically show up. Amazing people still push this stuff except to be able to commit such fraud.
     
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    Despite claims that "10,000 mail-in ballots were found due to ‘human error,’" there is no evidence of voter fraud, no accusations by either candidate or neutral observers. Should errors in tabulation not be corrected?

    Losers seem determined to crap on American democracy and inculcate paranoia.

    The losing candidate would have five days to request a recount following the conclusion of vote counting.
     
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    Just a big "OOPS"........................................ROFLMAO. 10,000 ballots just showing up and the guy incharge just gives a big OOPSIE everything is OK.

    Who told you they investigated all the ballots and there are no fraudulent ones? Give me a cite to the forensic investigation.

    No that is those who seems determined to crap on our elections and turn us into a third world banana republic where the party in power waits to see how many more votes they need to win.

    Well you successfully use fraud by getting fraudulent ballots in the mix so they get counted. Those ballots have been separated from the voter there is no way to trace the back and confirm they are legal votes.

    And even if they are ALL legitimate 10,000 voters faces disfranchisements by not having their votes cast. OOPS!! My bad!!!
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just thought I'd drop this off here. Gotta show an ID to vote and you can't do that by mail.

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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    All those WHITE SUPREMIST COUNTRIES!!!!

    You lose chain of custody with mail in ballots.
     
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    It will surprise no one to hear that your list is BS. I have voted in Australia for over 3 decades and NOT ONCE been required to show ID when I voted. Not in Federal elections, not in State elections, not in local elections, not for plebiscites or referrenda. Even when I have voted outside my electorate - which has happened numeorus times - I was only required to give my name and electorate. I probably had to show something the first time I registered, but it is so long ago I don't remember. I have moved multiple times since then & didn't have to show ID to do that.

    I am going to bet that if your list gets an easy one like Australia wrong then there are MANY, MANY more nations on that list that are not accurately classified. Of course, factual accuracy was never the point of this. It is directed at people whose understanding of the world is defined by online memes or other simplistic propaganda. Its all about the visuals, not the facts.

    Hard to imagine a better encapsulation of the MAGA view of the world.
     
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    Trust me, you have no clue what has been going on in the US elections. Especially lately.
     
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    I have more than a 'clue', but that is 100% irrelevant to my point.

    Yet another MAGA supporter posted yet another propaganda meme that assumes that MAGA supporters prefer agreeable visuals to facts. I debunked it with a glance, and your response is to completely ignore my post in favour of the preferred MAGA response - a short, thought terminating sentence.

    No need for you to think any further. Mission accomplished.
     
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    You would be wrong. I didn't give it a 2nd look. I don't tend to post or read the ridiculous posts by either side. And trust me, the left does likewise. Arguably to a greater extent. I don't rely on inane posts at all. The linked posts are normally by someone less informed than the linker. I would much prefer someone give their own reasoning. You can find ANYTHING on the internet with a simple google search supporting ANY position. You can search, "Passing gas in public will increase your lifespan and lead to a happy life" and get plenty of examples of idiots who hold this position. Links are vastly inferior to good reasoning. Links are only as good as the source and few actually vet their sources for integrity.
     
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    This happens time after time in modern U.S. elections. The odd part is the Democrat is always the beneficiary from the “found ballots” or “human error.” Isn’t that strange? It undermines the confidence in our elections. U.S. elections are fast becoming shams, and more people are seeing it.
     
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    You are making that up. parroting the hyper-partisan paranoia of losers.

    If you believe that Democrats are always the beneficiaries of recounts, audits, investigations, court challenges, etc., that may account for the contempt for democracy that Loser Trump promotes.

    While the vast majority of losers' attacks upon voting are exposed as baseless, what is exposed is not peculiar to either party. E.g.,


    Sore losers are nothing new.
     
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    American elections are amenable to recounts, audits, investigations, and court challenges. All were exhausted after the 2020 election.

    The 2020 presidential election was declared by the Trump Administration's Republican cyber-security expert Christopher Krebs to have been the most secure in U.S. history.

    There is nothing one can do to assuage disgruntled losers' contempt for democracy when they can't handle losing.
     
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    I actually love watching the dems complaining about election fraud from other dems in the dem primaries. But, I guess it doesn't happen in the general, only in the primaries because dems only commit election fraud in primaries.
     
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    Please name the state that does not require any ID to register. Otherwise, what I "dropped" in the toilet after my morning coffee is worth about as much as what you just dropped.
     
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    Where is your evidence for you claim?
     
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    You left out the part about needing ID to cast a ballot. CNN would be proud.
     
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    You didn't read what your own image said. Not reading? Trump would be proud.
     
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    Yeah, it says you need to have ID to cast a ballot. On the flip side you’re arguing that every state ID is required to register to vote and you seem proud of what you said. But aren’t you one of the libs who said ID is too hard to get? If you believe Biden and Trump got over 150 million votes, it’s obvious to me that getting an ID and then registering to vote is not hard or impossible like you guys say it is. And why do you guys argue against ID, is it because too many democrats are stupid and don’t know how to get one?
     
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    Here's an educational post for those who need it.

    From voter registration to mail-in ballots, how do countries around the world run their elections?

    Before the coronavirus outbreak, about a quarter of countries had used postal ballots in their national elections. Out of 166 countries for which data is available, 40 used postal ballots in their most recent national election, according to country experts surveyed before the COVID-19 outbreak by the Electoral Integrity Project. Postal ballots were used most widely in Europe and North America and are also common in some countries in the Asia-Pacific region, such as India, Indonesia, South Korea and Sri Lanka. Postal ballots were not available in most African and Caribbean countries, and not available in any Middle Eastern or Latin American countries.

    Paper ballots are by far the most common form of voting. Votes are cast by manually marking ballots in 209 of the 227 countries and territories for which the ACE Electoral Knowledge Network has data. In some places, voters make their selection by placing a symbol – such as an X, cross or checkmark – on a paper ballot that contains the entire list of candidates and/or parties. In a few countries, including Israel and Mali, voters select a ballot for a particular political party, put the ballot in an envelope and then deposit the envelope in a ballot box.


    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...untries-around-the-world-run-their-elections/
     
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    Thank you for confirming that you didn't read your own image. Once you have dedicated yourself to the willpower required to read a single sentence that you shared, then we can discuss the rest. So far, you are failing. Because, no. As any literate, English speaking person can tell you, that's NOT what it says.
     
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    The 2022 senate race in Nevada for one. The Democrat votes just kept appearing until they won. The senate race in Arizona and Utah were two others. The Republican is winning until the votes delivered by "the Pony Express" arrive to save the day for the Democrats.

    The Democrats ALWAYS win the cliffhangers. It's so strange ... It's always a come from behind win ... just like pro wrestling and roller derby.

    Even in 2020, the Pennsylvania presidential election, Trump had a huge lead going into Philadelphia. Then it went away after the poll watchers were kept far away from the count, and the room where the count was going was blocked up for a night.

    If you don't like that fact that I think some elections are fraudulent, tough ****. Why don't you prove that they are honest if you want to make your point?

    The law of averages says the Democrats shouldn't win EVERY TIME. But they do.
     
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    I didn't ask for an anecdote. You said this was true in ALL cases. So where is your proof of that claim? (And please don't take the intellectually cowardly, intellectually dishonest way out).
     
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    I have my beliefs; you have yours. Live with it.

    If you want to call me a coward and a dishonest person, go ahead. The monorators won't bother you at all.
     
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    So you intentionally misspoke about what that one sentence says, it doesn't fly and now you resort to insults. It says a person needs ID to cast a ballot, what language would you like me to translate that to? If there's one of us who can't read I can assure you it's not me.
     

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