OK reperation advocates.....

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Don't expect an answer. Not a good one.

    I'm sure we will hear how it is the job of white America to provide black folks with the genetic proof that will get them that check.

    Every black person cannot do what Alex Haley did and trace their ancestry all the way back to slavery.
     
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    But if the pipe dream comes to pass, imagine how many shiny rims and big speakers there will be!!! Most will be broke in 6 months. So if they get reparations, what do poor white folks get? We see no fruits of their dead ancestors, why do they have their hands out?
     
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    The hope is that this nonsense would back fire politically but after 6 months of rioting and burning down cities and hating on our country the democrats won anyway.
     
  4. FatBack

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    Alas, if we could send them to their own planet to suffer the effects of their choices alone, but we are along for the retarded ride into stupid chaos.
     
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  5. Esau

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    You have to have proof of ancestry. % is irrelevant since african americans mixed with europeans way back in iberia and west africa.
     
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    You DO realize that the majority of Americans will be able to find a trace of American African blood, if they dig back far enough....right? I mean, unless the are Basque, of course. Like another poster said, how do you expect to find this proof when ID is such a great challenge?

    Aren't we not constantly told how the old slavemasters would slip down to the quarters for a 'visit'?
     
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  7. CCitizen

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    1) The legal basis of Reparations is the Law of Inheritance . Inheritance for descendants of American Slaves. Many cases of inheritance are complicated yet resolved.

    2) In 1918-1920 each of four families of my great-grandparents obtained a room in apartments which formerly belonged to nobles. Peasants got land. Somehow Leon Trotsky solved all logistic problems.
     
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    If 'direct payment' happens, it will be as a step toward UBI and wealth redistribution. The problem noted by OP as to who benefits will result in just about everyone being granted the 'benefits', given that almost everyone has someone in their geniological line that can be demonstrated to have been wronged in some shape or form by 'America', and in the name of inclusivity, they (we) would all be 'rapayed. This is known by whatever PTB that would enact reparations.

    It should also be noted that it will not be the financial and political elite establishment that will be having their wealth redistributed. That never happens and isn't going to start anytime soon as those elites run all the systems that could concievably be used to impliment 'reparations'. We will simply be redistributing the scraps from those who have a few more scraps to those who have a few less, and we the common folk will all be in a worse position to try to compete with the elite ruling class. Which is, of course, precisely the reason it would happen.

    A meaningful system of reparations, like for example, to the ancestors of black slaves and/or to the ancestors of black soldiers that were denied veteren benefits or something similar to that would be to offer them homesteading on some of the vast tracks of land held by the various agencies of FedGov. At least that method would: a) not simply be a means to further collectivize our nation, and b) put some real resource and potential wealth (as opposed to made-up $) into the hands of The People.
     
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    You can actually look to Brazil to see how this thing has unfolded.
    There's a lot of what one would call "fraud", and persons with a tiny percentage of African ancestry are taking up most of the affirmative action slots reserved for blacks, which blacks there are not happy about, but there are no easy answers and no one wants to risk rocking the boat now, so the current affirmative action racial quota system is being left the way it is.

    history of race in Brazil
     
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    Agree. Money is the worst possible form of reparations. Land is probably the ultimate.
     
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    You realize no one is OWED an inheritance right? You can be cut from a will. Please post a law saying you are OWED a damn thing.
     
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    Uh, the US already tried that. Do you know about Liberia?
     
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    You should return to it. There are few things more empowering, than to own our little plot of land.
     
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    Its not just dna, its papers and documents from plantations, sales etc. The devil was a meticulous record keeper. It will involve corroboration of devils documents and the ancestry of the descendant (african american)
     
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    When I meet American Africans who put "Africa" before America, I wonder what year they immigrated?
    "White devil" now huh? Racism for breakfast today?

    Have you got your documents? Oh wait, you admitted you are as 'black' as I am.
     
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    Devils as in slavers but you can call them gods or angels or whatever you feel fits your narrative.

    Fyi african american is a name given by whites. Ask an "african american" what they call themselves y not?

    they call themselves israelites. How does that grab you?
     
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    Only African Americans can make decisions on how their Reparations are divided.

    Russian and East Europeans common people divided their Reparations in 1918-20 and late 1940s respectively. I am proud of my ancestors -- we are Jews from Russia.
     
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    Reparations for Slavery are only for descendants of American Slaves.

    Inheritance from anyone are usually to their descendants and hairs only.

    UBI is a totally different story, but it is a good idea. I am proud of Leon Trotsky and of my great-grandparents. They fought for Positive Rights of all humans. Totalitarianism in USSR came later -- after Leon Trotsky was exiled.
     
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    You completely ignore my question and point.
     
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    Never heard ONE claim that. Sounds like another of YOUR silly claims. Get a tan lately?
     
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    The question is not for me to answer.

    Fortunately, my great-grandparents were part of a similar change.
     
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    Sure it is, you claimed reparations is based on some inheritance law, so what law is it?
     
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    Never heard who claim what?
     
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    The honorable Elijah Muhammad has said that almighty God Allah has revealed to him that the black people of America are the real children of Israel and they—we—are the choice of God - farrakhan
     
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    Wow, a nut bag racist few follow (but Obama and you) I'm shocked. He also called Jews 'termites' and said whites are potential humans if they would evolve. We can see why you would 'honor' him. But it's kinda weird to hate your own kind like you do.
     

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