Oswald did it, Conspiracy theorists in denial and cannot accept it

FINALLY someone beside the threee of us to come on here who is objetive,rational,and logical with common sense but most importantly,not closed minded.

 

yeah he sure was non chalent about getting himself into position ha ha and yes that IS correct that it was running 10 minutes behind,these facts tare facts the magic bullet theorists cant get around.another one they cant is let me add on that Bonnie Ray Williams a co worker of oswalds,was on the 6th floor having his lunch eating a chicken sandwich.he said he did not leave till 12:20.

Oswald not knowing for sure williams would leave,would not have picked the 6th floor.he would have gone to liek the 7th floor.and just 10 minutes to set up everything up and get ready would not be much time. then there is the fact oswald had no way of knowing that he was running ten minutes late.

 

so very true.evidence shows that he was there the entire time since officer baker encountered him there 90 seconds later STILL drinking that coke.

 

exactly.I bring up that point all the time about the two women that spotted him and they ignore it EVERY SINGLE time.they ignore the FACTS that they said the warren commission altered their testimonys they gave of the timeframe they went down the stairs because if proved oswald could not have gone down those stairs during that time. they were harrassed and threatened with to change their story about it as well.

 

as always,mike gets his ass handed to him on a platter.

 

here is this story i have posted many times for the magic bullet theorists.they never have any answers for these facts,they always ignore it.about the two ladies going down the stairs in the same timeframe oswald was.

These two women Sandra Styles and Victoris Adams went down the stairs from the 4th floor after the shots were fired and according to the warren commissions timeframe,Oswald would had to pass them and they never saw him pass her.they also INSISTED the warren commission altered their testimonys,something they did with MANY witnesses which itself is a crime the commission members should have gone to jail for.

And it was through Lane’s book that Barry was introduced to the heroine of the second story he will tell. That second story is about the plight of one of these ordinary people who was swept up by events: Victoria Adams, the notable “girl on the stairs.” She was an employee who worked in the same building as one Lee Harvey Oswald. The problem caused by her presence is very simple and easily summarized. Adams, along with her friend Sandra Styles, stood on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository at the moment of the murder. She testified to hearing three shots, which from her vantage point appeared to be coming from the right of the building (i.e., from the grassy knoll). She and Styles then ran to the stairs to head down. This was the only set of stairs that went all the way to the top of the building. Both she and her friend took them down to the ground floor. She did not see or hear Oswald. Yet, she should have if he were on the sixth floor traveling downwards. Which is what the Commission said he did after he shot Kennedy.

This is the first problem, in a nutshell. Why did Adams not see a scrambling Oswald, flying down the stairs in pursuit of his Coca-Cola? Because of the Warren Commission’s timeline, we know Oswald had to have gone down the stairs during this period in order to be accosted in time by a motorcycle policeman. In addition, as we are later to discover, Adams also reports seeing Jack Ruby on the corner of Houston and Elm, “questioning people as though he were a policeman.”

From here the parallel stories broaden out. For Barry began to read more books critical of the Commission. And he would then compare what was in these books with the testimony and evidence in the 26 volumes. Like many people before him, he found something rather disturbing: the evidence and testimony did not completely back up the summary conclusions in the Warren Report. The Commission had selectively chosen evidence to make their case. And they had deliberately tried to discredit witnesses and testimony that contradicted their guilty verdict about Oswald. And the witness that they did this to that really kindled Barry’s curiosity was Victoria Adams. As the author writes at the end of Chapter 1, “What if she was right?”

Adams did not find the government eager to hear her story. This is why they badgered her day and night: the FBI, Secret Service, Dallas Police, and the Sheriff’s Department. And Victoria noticed something discriminatory about all the attention she was getting: the other witnesses in her office did not receive it, e.g., Sandy Styles who ran down the stairs with her, or Elsie Dorman or Dorothy May Garner who watched the motorcade with her.

The attention didn’t stop. In fact, even when she moved to a different address these agents followed her. Even though she had left no forwarding address and her new apartment was not in her name. But they still found her. They followed her when she went to lunch. They followed her when she walked around town. When she sent a letter to a friend in San Francisco describing what she saw and did that day as a witness, the friend never got the letter. The question they posed was always the same: When did you run down the stairs after the shooting?

Then, another odd thing happened. When David Belin and the Warren Commission requested her to testify, it was her alone. Sandra Styles was not with her. In fact, Barry could find no evidence that the Commission questioned Styles at all. Further, during her appearance, Belin had handed her a diagram of the first floor of the Texas School Book Depository, the place where she and Oswald worked at that time. He asked her to point out where she saw two other employees (i.e., William Shelley and Billy Lovelady) when she arrived at the bottom of the stairway. When Barry went to look up this exhibit in the Commission volumes—Commission Exhibit 496—he discovered something odd. It was not the document in the testimony. It was a copy of the application form Oswald filled out for his job at the Depository.

Further, although Styles did not testify that day, or at all, both Lovelady and Shelley did. And as Barry read their testimony it appeared to him that the Commission was making use of them to discredit Adams. Commission lawyer Joe Ball made sure he asked Shelley when and if he saw Adams after the shooting. And when Barry read Lovelady’s testimony his mouth flew open. Lovelady brought up Adams’ name before Ball did! And he called her by her nickname, “Vickie.” Barry was puzzled as to what prompted this spontaneous reference to Adams. Did Lovelady know in advance that Ball was going to specifically ask about her?

Indeed, when she read her own testimony in the Warren Commission—and the Commission’s use of it—Adams was startled to find major discrepancies, including the time interval as to when she started down the stairs after she heard the shots. This began for her a lifelong burden of living in the shadows, avoiding any publicity dealing with her testimony or her treatment at the hands of the Commission. When her employer, publishing house Scott Foresman, offered her a chance to transfer out of Dallas to Chicago in 1966, she took it. (p. 35) While there, she actually now began to read the Warren Report. She now noted what they had done with Lovelady and Shelley. This stupefied her. Because she did not recall seeing either man after she and Styles arrived on the first floor. (p. 36)

so much for the EVIDENCE that oswald killed kennedy. oh and dont forget,nitrate tests down on his cheek tested NEGATIVE. anyone trying to prove oswald had anything to do with it in a HONEST government and courtroom which we havent had in DECADES,would be laughed out of that court in a minute.


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I know he worships the LAMESTREAM media to know end ignoring their bias they have demonstrated so many times over the years and their bias in the investigation as well.he ignore the fact that congress had an investigation into the CIA's activities in the 70's and discovered that they have plants in the mainstream media.walter kronkite was one as a matter of fact.

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that says it all right there.

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that says it all right there.

 

yeah thats funny they always say youtube videos prove nothing yet he is doing the ame thing right here.what hypocrisy.he lost his credibility right there.

 

They never found evidence of any such thing least of all concerning Cronkite.

If they did you could provide a link to said evidence

 

They just dig their hole deeper and deeper.

 

Big (*)(*)(*)(*) storm. That's why they had to get rid of him right away.

 

They did not get rid of him right away.

Ruby killed him two days later.

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Yes you should stop digging the hole.

 

That is right away in my book.

Why? We are burying the lie of a lone gunman.

 

No you are undermining the conspiracy theories with constant nonsense.

You believe the magic bullet theory for example.

You call it right away but it is two days NOT right away but two days when he spoke openly to police and the media.

 

Read the testimony of the people in Dallas on November 22, 1963 for yourself. http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/

 

I have and out of over 180 witnesses found that day most support the evidence which proves Oswald shot Kennedy and no one else did.

When one has such a large number of witneses there will of course always be some who rememeber it differently and who contradict the rest but they are simply wrong.

The physical evidence and the majority of witnesses ruin the conspiracy theories.

 

Really? You read all those testimonies and your conclusion is that Oswald acted alone? The rest of us who actually did read their testimonies find your conclusion suspect. Most of the people in Dallas that day say otherwise. Read them again: http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/

 

No they do not say otherwise.

You are selectively cherry picking only those you like.

Most of them support the physical evidence which proves Oswald and no one else shot Kennedy.

 

Do you read English?

 

Yes I do you seem to have comprehension problems with the language.

For example you constantyl claim that doctors stated something which they did not and you think a few witnesses disputing the rest constitutes " all of them saying otherwise ".

 

Or you could actually READ the documentation for yourself.

 

I have and most of it supports the fact that Oswald acted alone.

As does most of the physical evidence.

 

No, you haven't read the testimony of the people in Dallas when JFK was assassinated. No one who is honest and has read the official testimony given to the Warren Commission could possibly come to the conclusion that Oswald acted alone. The conspiracy to commit murder on President John F. Kennedy and the conspiracy to cover it up is all right here in the official Warren Commission testimony for anyone to read for themselves.
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/

 

No you are quite wrong and ignorant of the testimony and facts.

The testimony is varied and complex.

In fact you have never read the Warren Commission report but only cherry picked a few witnesses who disagree.

Most of them in fact support the evidence as I keep pointing out to you and that is a fact.

You really need to study both sides not just the one you like

 

Good grief Soupnazi. Not only did I read the Warren Commission report I read the testimonies of the people who testified in front of the Warren Commission. Once one reads both then the only honest conclusion is that the Warren Commission told a big fat lie in their report. Read the testimonies for yourself: http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/