Palestine: Fact or fiction.

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  1. Grugore

    Grugore Active Member

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    Well, that land belongs to the Jews now. They ain't going anywhere. So deal with it.
     
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    most Jews didn't live in Palestine in 1948.

    including my grandparents.
     
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  3. Grugore

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    I do believe that giants once existed. After all, the Bible says so. However I don't pay any attention to videos like this. I have yet to see a single one with video footage of one of these giant skeletons. It's nothing but pictures, and those are easily manipulated. I believe that all of them are Photo Shopped.
     
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    You are right about the skeleton pictures, they all have been debunked as fakes.
     
  5. Grugore

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    Thought so. I also believe that skeletons, unless they are carefully preserved, would have a hard time surviving that long. In soil of neutral acidity, bones may last for hundreds of years. That's it.
     
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    the Palestians doubtless, like the natives of all other countries all other countries descend, doubtless, mainly from the original inhabitants after various changes of religion.
     
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    So did Jews. One side from one son of Abraham and the other from a different son of Abraham.
     
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    The Palestinians are the descendants of the Old Testament Jews while the racist settlers descend mainly from Khazars and Roman converts
    No people, of various religions who, like those in the neighbouring countries, mostly changed to Islam because it meant lower taxes.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The racist Jews who made the region called Palestine a great place to live and protect sunni Palestinians from Shiite muslims should concede they had no clue how to run a country, form one, or how to govern? They(Palesttinians) are basically the dregs of the muslim world who wish they were given the respect they have never earned.

    Since Jews are the minority and Muslims are the majority, how can a Jew be a racist? If Jews are so detrimental to the area, why don't you take some land from Jordan, who took "Palestinians" land in the first place and drove them into Israel where they were allowed to live in peace until their laziness placed them in a position of less respect than those who rebuilt the wonder of their own land?
     
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  10. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In your blind zeal to regurgitate scripted Hasbara "Talking Points" & slander Palestine's native residents, you've substituted myths for facts.
    It was the Germans who built virtually all of Israel's initial infrastructure, gave Israel over 60 ships, built the railways, gave the Israelis the trains to go on them & more.(1)
    In addition to "making the desert bloom", the Germans also armed the foreign, genocidal Zionist Terrorist Gangs(2), (3) enabling them to carry out the heinous massacres & steal the homes, farms & shops of Palestine's Native Residents.

    As it is painfully obvious to loyal American taxpayers, Germany's largesse was not enough for greedy Zionists & America soon became the unwitting "host" for insatiably parasitic Zionist lobbies.

    Palestine's Native Residents may not have had much but at least they were able to support themselves without preying on hapless host countries around the world.


    (1) “The Reparations Agreement of 1952 and the response in Israel”
    http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/Engl...Agreement.aspx
    EXCERPT “As part of the reparations, many goods reached Israel which helped the state economy to stabilize over the years. For example, Israel received new-fangled German-manufactured trains, which were operated for a number of years by the Israel Railways”CONTINUED



    (2) “Inside the Germany/Israel Relationship”
    http://www.momentmag.com/inside-germ...-relationship
    EXCERPTS “Federal Republic of Germany laid the groundwork for Israel’s infrastructure—including roads, railways and shipping—while simultaneously rebuilding West German industry.
    In addition to money, Israel also needed weapons. As early as 1954, German reparation funds were secretly being used to buy patrol boats, tanks and arms. Germany itself supplied Israel with weapons through a variety of back channels. Many details remain untold, but a 2006 U.S. Congressional Research Service report concluded that German-supplied arms “played a considerable role” in building up Israeli military might in the wars of 1967, 1973 and 1982."CONTINUED


    (3) “German-Israeli Armaments Cooperation”
    http://www.bits.de/public/articles/cast06-02.htm
    EXCERPT “Israel profited from cooperation by having a reliable and quick source for spare parts and complete weapon systems – even in times of war, when other nations like the United States, Great Britain and France were more restrictive in supplying arms to Israel. Another advantage was the willingness of the German government to pay for these exports to Israel."CONTINUED
     
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    genetic studies prove the Jews are descended partially from the ancient Hebrews.
     
  12. Grugore

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    Another Jew hater heard from...YAWWWWNNNN!
     
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    bahahaha You are too interested in racial purity to see the big picture.
     
  14. Grugore

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    He's just a Jew hater, and best ignored. Even if Israel did have some help in the beginning, just look at what they have accomplished since then. Case in point, just look at their military. If I was President of the United States, there is no way I would try to invade Israel. You think Afghanistan was a mess, for both the U.S. and Russia? You ain't seen nothing yet. They have some hardware I'd love to get my hands on for this country. Like air deployed automated tank killers. Have you seen these things? They are amazing. They're like land mines, but they can attack any tank that dares show itself, and destroy it. No human supervision required. It contains a base, that stores powerful armor-piercing rockets. On top are the sensors and a rotating arm that grabs a rocket, aims, and fires in no time at all. A single one could stop an entire company of tanks. They can be deployed in the hundreds in just a matter of minutes. There's also the fact that military service is compulsory. And they all keep their weapons when they leave. Everyone in Israel is a soldier. Shoot, I've seen 'civilians' walk into a grocery store, carrying fully automatic weapons. Nope. Wouldn't want to mess with them. No how. No way.
     
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  15. Chester_Murphy

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    I think you are dangerously mistaken.

    No, but I believe you. They don't sit around. They do what they have to do.

    To oversimplify, "it wouldn't be prudent". :)
     
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    "In addition to "making the desert bloom", the Germans also armed the foreign, genocidal Zionist Terrorist Gangs(2), (3) enabling them to carry out the heinous massacres & steal the homes, farms & shops of Palestine's Native Residents."

    I repeat. A Jew hater.
     
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    You misunderstood me. I think he is much more than your typical Jew hater. Notice this post of mine?

     
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    Sorry about that. It's early, for me, and I've only had three cups of coffee. :)
     
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    In other words you can't refute the fact that I've flushed your Hasbara scripted lies so it's time to howl "anti Semite".


    "An antisemite used to be someone who hates Jews;

    nowadays an antisemite is someone Jews hate.”


    - Gilad Atzmon, Jewish musician and author, 2011
     
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    No problem.
     
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    Take a break. Germans wouldn't have been there if not for oil for their war machines. They had no interest in humanity, unless you consider tracing their roots back to them as blood relatives. Iranians are closer to your heritage than Palestinians, who are likely more closely related to Africans.
     
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    You're only further exposing your ignorance about the German construction of Israel's initial infrastructure & my "heritage" about which you also know nothing.
    Firstly, Israel is not noted for its oil reserves & secondly, Germany had no "war machines" of note in the time period during which they were "making the deserts bloom"
     
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    Irrelevant. The Israeli's took a desert and turned it into an agricultural powerhouse. Who cares if they had a little help? No one did it for them. They did it. And considering how they have been treated, they deserved that help.
     
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    Israel is not, but without a hold in the Middle East, a powerful nation could not control the area or have relations with countries in the region who do have oil. No other nations could be conquered so easily as the Palestinians. Using religious tolerance and furthering relations in the area using the Catholic church to help you, is a great start.

    Your heritage, if you are German is the same as Hitler's ideal Aryan. It's roots are in the culture of Iraq, as proven by your own countrymen.

    You argue that you have more right to the area than Jews, who were there long before you and were not completely gone from the land. Germany had no reason to be there in any governing capacity. But, you point is well taken. The Palestinians were in no way an important factor in the area.
     
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    Oh? So your next thread will be about how everyone not an aboriginal american should just piss off out of the US?
     

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