Paris terror fears as 'radicalised Muslim' is shot dead at Orly airport

Many Muslims DON'T do heavy drugs nor drink, you are right. But many do - so Allah is a terrible communicator - especially for someone who allegedly is all-knowing and all-powerful and created the whole universe, etc., etc.

 

Valid observation - yes, the contradictions in religions are one of its greatest weaknesses. For instance I'm sure you'd say that Islam is a loving belief system - yet it teaches hatred for the Jew.....bigotry at it's worst....even Jews who live 1400 years after Mohammad!

 

If they don't hate me then of course, let's assume I live an ethical and worthwhile life, they'd let me into their Paradise, or AT LEAST spare me from barbaric worse-than-Saddam type of torture that allegedly awaits me after I die, for eternity. Can we at least agree on that, notme? Hopefully you can show some compassion to me - I myself would let you into Paradise if it was up to me, because I'm better than Allah/Mohammad, obviously.

 

Not as much as far right people cherry picking one line of Islamic text, and demand a condemnation, while the next line paint a rather complete opposite picture.

 

What part of "slay them wherever you find them" is compassionate in your learned opinion?
If the Qur'an was written by a Modern Secular Humanist it might read "love them wherever you find them."

 

In this case,.. it's you who just made a bogus claim. A heavy drug user and a drinker is simply not a muslim fundamentalist. Period.

Mohammed married a Jew, proves you wrong.

I think you got the christian faith mixed up who blames all the Jews for the death of Jesus until the end of times.

 

What part of "cherry picking" do you not understand?
The next line demands muslims must to protect unbelievers when the want it.

 

1. Allah/Mohammad HATE Jews, just read the Islamic texts!
2. I agree that god/Jesus have created anti-Semitism by blaming all the Jews for the death of Jesus until the end of times. Yes, Jesus was a bigot, and therefore clearly not worth worshipping. But if a person is a bigot themselves, then I suppose it would make perfect sense to worship a fellow bigot.

 

No, it says to subjugate them under the boot of Sharia Law, basically.

 

Do you condemn Jesus/god for saying that? I do, how about you?

 

Jews are also cursed by Allah (5:13), in one of his final 'pronouncements'. The Quran goes on to assure Muslims that Jews are wicked (4:160-162) – so wicked, in fact, that they have somehow managed to do the impossible (18:27) and alter the word of Allah (2:75). Jews are “fond of lies” and “devour the forbidden” (5:42); they are the worst enemies of Muslims (5:82)

The Quran assures believers that Jews and Christians have “diseased hearts” (5:52). Allah even takes credit for the enmity between them (5:14). Only Jews and Christians who submit to Islamic subjugation and pay the Jizya are protected in this world (9:29 & Ibn Ishaq 956).
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/quran-hate.aspx

Can you condemn Mohammad/Allah for this Jew hatred?

 

How do you prepare?

 

And why did Mohammed say this in your translation version again? What were the circumstances at this time again?

I know, you don't care about these details and that your translation version tells this, is enough for you to know that Islam is only evil, right?

 

Interesting ... I think Christians did very well in our actions against Jews and this in name of the Christian faith. Genocide in Europe and I don't tell only about Nazis, was not an import from the ME!

 

Wrong!

People quote again and again the violent things in Koran, but they make here again and again the core error!
What was history of Islam founding? They had to fight for live against those who wanted to eliminate them and those were the unbelievers!

In a critical reading of the Qur'an, it will be found that this is inconsistently contradictory. An example are the statements about the Christians. On the one hand there are Koran parts, which express themselves positively and praising about Christians and Jews. Muslims respect Christians and Jews because of their fear of God. On the other hand, there are also texts which express themselves negatively about Christians or people of other beliefs. In general, it can be said that Muslims tend to accept and tolerate Christians rather than polytheists (followers of many gods). For both Christians and Jews are described as "peoples of the book" on the basis of "their holy books."

To show the contradiction, examples:

Sura 2: 62 (The Cow, revealed to Medina): Christians and Jews have their reward for their faith and their deeds with God.

Sura 2, 109: People of the "People of Scripture" will try to dissuade Muslims from the true faith. That is why Muslims are to avoid them, but forgive them.

Sura 2,256: There is no compulsion in religion.

Sura 5, 82 (The table, Medina): Muslims should cherish Christians for their faith and their humility.

Sura 5: 105: Muslims should not care about other believers

but then also ...

Sura 4.47 (The Women, Medina): Forced and exercising violence in religion are clearly allowed. It is even called.

Sura 5.51; 4.89 Muslims should avoid social interactions with unbelievers and avoid friendship with them.

Sura 8, 39 (The Prey, Medina): Fight against all those who reject Islam until they are ready to offer Allah.

Sura 8: 55-60: Unbelievers are not human beings. Violence against them is a legitimate means.

Core Problem:

Who are the unbelievers ... Definition who is considered disbelieving?

Precisely this lack of clear definition is the reason why there is so much room for maneuver and in the principle everything and everyone who/ which is not Muslim to title and classify as disbelieving! And this is exactly what these bastards of terrorists make use of!

But ... as there are more than enough passages in the Qur'an (as shown above with a few examples), which exclude Christians and Jews defintingly as unbelievers, we now have the following fact:

The Islamists and terrorists who appeal to Islam for their abominable acts pollute their own Koran!

And that in turn is the annoying in two ways:
1. No one in Islam is really hard and open and says that clearly!
2. The genial Islam haters do not know this fact and use the same false nonsense as the Islamic terrorists, but here to show how evil Islam is!

 

That's why I called him "a strange one".

 

I'm from a city where their is a lot of muslim. At least in France, most all muslims don't hate french. However an important part of them do. The part of muslims who prefer radical islam to France is estimated between 10 and 40 %, by asking some opinion polls about different subjects who are markers of extremism.

A lot of them try to integrate themselves and not create problems but for me, they are often the less religious one and I wouldn't be surprised if most of their children become athee.

However, 10 to 40 % of extremist with different degrees (their is non djihadist extremists) is still really high.

I really think that Islam is a violent ruthless religion, chritistianism too was like that and I don't like christianism a lot more, but the fact that Islam is, for me, a wrong ideology, shouldn't make us forget that a lot of muslims really want to live in peace.

The big problem of Islam is that the part of the people who don't want to live in peace is really big. They don't need to be a majority. If 30 % of them are extremly intolerant, it's already a major obstacle to civil peace.

 

Religion is full of contradictions....showing that religion is likely not true at all.
Mohammad started out peaceful, but as his power grew he because a ruthless power-hungry warlord. Hardly a role model.

 

We agree that religions are terrible.

Can you answer the question in that post? "Can you condemn Mohammad/Allah for this Jew hatred?"
If not, then you might want to try caring for humanity enough so that you find the moral courage to condemn hatred like that (the hatred that Mohammad had for the Jew.)

 

Where did Mohammed tell this Jew hate ... or where is this written in Koran?

be careful about please ...

The term "unbeliever" is mostly in origin and then it was in some versions / translations changed with Jews and Christ ... or it was told that part of the unbelievers are Jews and Christ too.
But this is a bad wrong and fake thing then! By fact is Old Testament part of Koran too and so Jewish faith ... hello irony ... part of Islam as it is part of Christ too!
And Jesus is even on Koran a prophet too ...

 

This is so not true, sorry ...
He started to pray against the multiple gods religions and had to flee for his faith that only 1 god is existing. So he started to be a hunted one due to his faith and to fight to win with his faith!
Later ... of course ... the Islam was not better as any other religion in history of this planet by conquering as much as possible in name of the religion.

 

Mohammad married a Jew. So that proves you wrong.

 

The Quran is crystal clear about that:
“There is no compulsion in religion — the right way is indeed clearly distinct from error.”— 2:256
“The Truth is from your Lord; so let him who please believe and let him who please disbelieve.” — 18:29

The Quran is full of these lines demanding to let people with different religious just be.

Nope. This only says people who got an other religion, got the wrong religion.

 

The very next line proves you wrong.

 

I want to precise I deeply dislike Islam, from judaism, christianism and islam, it's probably the worst one.

However, as far as I know, if he slaughtered jews, he precised that christian and jews were "imperfect muslims", in a sort, muslims who didn't get the last update. He created laws who oppressed jews, but let them the liberty of praciting their religion.