Part 36 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

And yet they still fought to throw us out.

The West caused the Middle East problems and now it wants to escape responsibilities. Not much of a Good Samaritan are you.

 

Thanks for commenting on just one part of my post. There are millions of men out there who are excellent husbands/partners, love their wives and help others. There are bad pennies in Christianity.

Your 'Christian' Character is beginning to show through.

God blesses those who are merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.
You have heard the law that says 'love your neighbour and hate your enemy'. But I say 'Love your enemies'.

 

Johnny Brady, et al,

Clearly, this is true. There will always be those that give for what they believe is the greater good.

(REAL STORY FROM THE PAST)

When I was in the 4th and 5th grade, I was a student in a Catholic School (St Pius X). I remember quite well that we were sent home with boxes of little contribution envelopes. I did not realize it at the time, but I was in one of the poorest families in the Parish. In our case, the North American Aviation Plant closed and both my parents were out of work. We lost our home a couple years before. We were a family of four in an 8x35 foot Wooden Trailer in the poorer part of the county.

All hell broke-loose when one Sunday, the Weekly Bulletin published the names of families and their church contributions so as to shame those that did not make an appropriate donation.

That was the last year for me to go to school or attend Catholic Church (or any church of that matter). It was years before I actually found out the humiliating story from my Mother when my first child started kindergarten. I had actually thought about sending my daughter to St Pius. And that is when my Mother told me the history as she saw it.

I was the first in my family to go to college and graduate. My daughter (Brandi) graduated Ohio Northern University.

(COMMENT)

I recognize today the subtle application of economic coercion. I understand in both the teachings of Catholicism (mortal sin and damnation) as well as the projection of religious authority --- the need to kiss the ring.

Don't think for a moment that the church and religious hierarchy have forgotten all about the accumulation of wealth, influence and authority. Just as Isabella I (Queen of Castile) and Ferdinand II (King of Aragon) used the power and permission of the Pope (Pius II) to accumulate abandon wealth when they issued the expulsion order of the Jews (malfeasance - under the color of law), the establishment of the Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition under Papal authority (The Inquisition), and the Friday the Thirteenth mass arrest of the Knights of Templar's orchestrated by the Pope (Clement V), and examples and demonstrate the actual priorities of what we euphemistically call a Religion (a huge cult). Similarly, descriptive histories can be written for other religions; Islam's Muhammad (PBUH) practically invented Jihadism, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Religious Violence. In Islam, we see that being devote and steeped in prayer is not sufficient to fulfill his spiritual and intellectual needs.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

1- there are always anti-government agitators in every country, for example the anti-Trump brigade are at it today..
2- I've been saying for years we ought to get out of the mideast because it's nothing to do with us, so my conscience is quite clear..

 

If everybody had done that we'd all be speaking Japanese and German by now!
Read some war books and you'll find most serviceman never hated the japs and jerries, and only killed them because they had no choice.
For example as ex-SS Tiger tank commander Werner Busche once told me- "After a British anti-tank unit blew up my tank and killed some of my crew, they dressed my wounds and treated me very well".
He became a POW in Scotland and stayed on after the war, marrying a scottish girl and running his own pub. The local Scottish regiment made him an honorary member of their mess..

 

Good for you mate, you're well out of it!
The Catholic Church has always been a corrupt perverse organisation with Satan's fingerprints all over it and must have put thousands of people off Jesus over the years, but they can't get under his radar..-
Jesus said- "Not all who call me "Lord,Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven. Then I'll tell them plainly, I never knew you, get away from me" (Matt 7:21-23)

 

So you admit you Christians civilised half the world by peddling the word of God for profit..

 

You get your knowledge of history from the movies. That's not surprising. You must love the old Charlton Heston films.

 

Canadian-born Aimee Semple McPherson was one of the most famous evangelists of the early 20th century, but faced a major scandal in the 20s when she was accused of an extramarital affair and faked her own death as a cover.
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Jimmy Swaggart famously led Jimmy Swaggart Ministries on television during the 70s and 80s, but was involved in a number of scandals in the late 80s and 80s that revealed a number of visits with prostitutes and extramarital affairs.
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Jim Bakker was accused of paying off a woman who claimed she was sexually assaulted by him, which led to an investigation revealing Baker had committed accounting fraud. Baker was eventually imprisoned, and Messner divorced him.
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Creflo Augustus Dollar Jr. was leader of the mega-church, the World Changers Church International in College Park, Georgia, but was hounded by investigations by the IRS over the full disclosure of his assets. In 2012 the pastor was arrested for physically attacking his 15-year-old daughter,
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Peter Popoff was a self-proclaimed prophet and faith healer in the 1980s, but his ministry went bankrupt after atheist magician and skeptic James Randi debunked his methods by revealing he used an in-ear receiver to learn "supernatural" information about his audience members.
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Thomas Wesley Weeks Jr. along with his former wife Juanita Bynum, co-founded Global Destiny Christian Community in Washington D.C., and was once a highly sought-after motivational speaker. In 2007, however, he was witnessed beating, stomping, and choking his wife in the parking lot of a hotel, and was convicted of aggravated assault and terroristic threats in the following year.
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Ted Haggard was a prominent televangelist, and founder and pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and leader of the National Association of Evangelicals from 2003 to 2006. Haggard was known for preaching against same-sex marriage, so it came as a shock to his congregation when in November 2006, male prostitute and masseur Mike Jones alleged that Haggard had paid him for sex for three years and had also purchased and used crystal meth. Haggard initially denied the allegations, but later resigned from his positions and admitted to multiple homosexual relationships in the following years.
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I could go on - Oh well, I will

Catholic church pedophilia scandal​

Of course the Brits never had such issues.

Oh wait, I must mention that most religious Henry the 8th. Truly a saintly fellow.​

OK, now I'll stop. But you get the idea.

 

Is that your definition of a True Christian - someone who gives money away?

 

For many years Catholic Christians never divorced. People in bad marriages just paid the Church to assert the marriage never even took place (annulment).

 

Not at all. You have a right to defend yourself. You don't have to hate your enemy to do that.
My father used to tell me he never hated the German soldiers he fought against. He simply had to defend this land and his family.

 

What did all these charlatans have in common?

 

What you talking about Charlie?

 

The redskins were on the whole a depraved cruel bunch, just google around-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive.html

 

Don't let the phonies fool you mate, if you've let them put you off Jesus they're laughing at you!
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ." (2 Cor 11:13/14)
They can't get under the radar..-

Jesus said- “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean" (Matt 23:27)

 

Being a Christian goes much deeper than that mate, one definition i like is that a Christian is somebody who's mindmelded with Jesus so that they've become part of him, and he's become part of them..

"On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you" (John 14:20)

 

The Comanche chiefs brought only one white captive to the meeting, as well as several Mexican children who had been captured separately. Muguara refused to deliver more captives on the grounds that they were held in the rancherías of other chiefs over which he had no authority.[4] The white captive was Matilda Lockhart, a 16-year-old girl who had been held prisoner for over a year and a half. Mary Maverick, who helped care for the girl, wrote almost sixty years after the event that Lockhart had been beaten, raped and had suffered burns to her body. Her face was severely disfigured, with her nose entirely burned away, a detail which has been commonly included in Texas history descriptions of the incident since the 1890s.[9]

Reports of abuse are, however, conspicuously missing in primary documents authored by eyewitnesses immediately after the event. Colonel Hugh McLeod did not mention any abuse in his report of March 20, 1840 (commenting on the intelligence of the girl but nothing like a missing nose), and neither did any other Texas officials at the time, nor Matilda Lockhart's own sister-in-law in a letter written to her mother shortly after the release. Anderson writes: "While published in the 1890s, this description has been used by historians to
claim that the massacre came about as a result of the justifiable rage of Texas men. Yet none of the Texas officials claimed this to be the case at the time; evidence of abuse is conspicuously missing in the primary documents. Maverick may have exaggerated Lockhart's condition because of the growing criticism of Texas in the American and European Press. The most significant source on Matilda's condition is a brief statement made in a letter by her sister-in-law, Catherine Lockhart, who was in San Antonio. Catherine describes Matilda's release but says nothing of abuse.".[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_House_Fight

If you want a film to be spectacular add a bit to spice it up. Who you want to believe is up to you.

 

Mate, if you're trying to put forward the notion that the redskin tribes were all sweetness and light, you'll never make it fly..

 

C H R I S T A N I T Y

I'm guessing you knew that, but, thanks for the straight line.

 

I'd like your input on the I am Legion thread.

 

• I googled and came across the European Witch Hunts wherein tens of thousands of people got burned at the stake because Christian Leaders believed they were witches.
• I googled and came across the wars between Protestants and Catholics that resulted in untold deaths of Catholics and Protestants.
• I googled and came across the anti-semitic writings of Protestant Reformationist Luther that Hitler used to inflame Christian Germans against Jewish Germans resulting in the deaths of six million Jews.

OK then. You get your knowledge of history from the movies and the British tabloids.


For those who don't know the Daily Mail is on par with the National Enquirer.

 

Johnny Brady, I do know where you are coming from. The only Real Christians are those Christians you approve of. All the rest are phonies.

I was put off Jesus a long, long time ago. It's Real Christians, like yourself, that continue to reassure me that I made the right decision.

 

Funny, isn't it how fundamentalists and literalist drive people away from faith. You'd have to park your brain at the door and think like ISIS.

 

What matters most to me is you included a starting date of the universe. I saw the other day photos taken by Hubbell showing galaxies much more distant and we ought not limit the entire universe to being 13 million years old.