Pentagon buries evidence of $125 billion in bureaucratic waste

Why do you need to do that? The article said the Study found the savings could be done without any layoffs at all

We are talking about the military here. Are you saying no corruption can be corrected until we correct all corruption?

 

Because it's not like that money is recoverable. That money disappeared into RFI requests, local vendor/contractor payouts that weren't properly fed into higher level DoD accounting systems, and other expenditures that don't end up correctly annotated on the books alongside legitimate examples of fraud and waste.

It's not like there's $8.5 trillion sitting in some bivouac on Fort Meade. That money is gone.

 

Not layoffs. The biggest causes of waste in the military are outdated and incompatible record keeping and management systems, especially the finance system. To fix those problems, you have two options:

A) work incredibly conservatively and slow to try and bring functional parallel systems online in an attempt to ensure legacy systems work all the way up until the new systems are proven to function (which is prone to failure as local unit just won't use the new systems and the whole thing will fall apart).

Or B) a fast and dirty approach where you just uproot the entire system and replace it whole cloth, but while doing so soldiers don't get paid, family housing doesn't get paid, medical problems don't get taken care out, promotions don't happen, awards don't get awarded, etc.

The First has been tried and failed multiple times since the 1980's. The second might spark a revolt.

 

The concept I'm missing is why when Obama is leaving office does corrupt defense spending all of a sudden become an issue.

 

It was an issue when Obama was in office too. It's been an issue with the DoD since at least the 70's.

 

I guess this is the time to solve the problem then. I have confidence in Trump and Pence and Gen. Gattis to set things right once and for all.

 

You are mistaken.

 

So a president with zero government experience and a general who has only ever been a warfighter and who has never dealt directly with the bureaucratic/administrative aspects of the DoD are going to magically fix a problem that 40 years worth of programs designed by experts haven't?

 

You want skip over the last 8 years years of bad foreign policy and blame it all on Bush or Trump lol! This is the kind of reasoning we have to look forward to the next 4 years of Trump.

 

What foreign policy? Why are you deflecting? We are talking about fraud and waste at the DoD.

 

yeah you are correct the dod does have a higher profile. as for the cia, i doubt its spending will ever go public

 

Corruption around every corner. Shocking!

 

Why would it? They'd never let it happen. You can get an idea about how the CIA spends our tax dollars by reading:

Legacy of Ashes
Looming Tower

Hundreds and hundreds of millions spent arming jihadists since the Afghan war. All off the books, just disappeared money.

I wonder, if we stopped doing all that, could "social security" and other "entitlements" be paid for and taxes still cut?

Guess we'll never know.

 

I love how this came to light after Trump got elected. Somebody wanted to give the man a blueprint for slashing the federal budget deficit.
It's not going to take base closings and program deletions. It's going to take reductions in lazy cubicle dwelling cretinous leaches.
Who wants to take bets that Trump has a balanced budget in his second year in office?

 

Yeah ... and then Trump demands that the allies of USA have to pay more money, because USA pays so much more! Very good idea to demand such things when wasting in reality money like mad!
Germany's complete defense budget is something of about 33-35 billion Euro ... well ... 125 billion USD are again how much Euro in average?

Great demand Mr. Trump .... well done! Not better to clean up your own mess first to save tax money before demanding such nonsense?

 

Just how "expert" can those people be if they can't get anything done? You give credence to too many things that make no sense.
It's time for a fresh take without some pompous, degreed, nose picker standing around opining on how it can't be done.

 

Agreed fraud in the DoD has existed since its creation by Congress. Why did it just become an issue for you, could it be because a Republican president is about to take office?

 

Because institutional problems inherently resist change. I laid out in another post exactly why these programs have failed in the past.

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It's been an issue with me since the Bush administration at the least.

 

To be fair if countries are not paying what they should and passing the buck to other counties of course that is not a good thing.. Strange thing to brag about. If you want to discuss NATO though perhaps start a thread on it.

 

Good for you but I don't remember seeing posts on here about the DoD under Obama being friendly to whistle blowers and other anti-fascists. Why hasn't he given Assange and Snowden a US federal pardon already?

 

Why are you so desperate to deflect? Is this thread about Snowden the traitor?

 

There you go again. You persist in believing in the boogy man institution. Those programs failed precisely because they were "programs". Not individual administrators taking the time to dig deep and root out the causes and individuals responsible for the problems and meting out punishments for doing so.
It's not the institution, but the people running it.

 

So when individual administrator CPT Snuffy in the 991st Finance Company in BFE pulls her myself up by his bootstraps and un(*)(*)(*)(*)s the problems with his unit's finance systems but now he can't even communicate with Battalion's systems, let alone Brigade, or Big Army, what exactly has been accomplished?

 

Engrish prease.
Try somehow to communicate with people instead of getting so peeved that you can't post coherent sentences.

 

It's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing autocorrect on my phone being a dick. You know what I meant. Why not address the content of my post instead of deflecting to IOS having (*)(*)(*)(*)ty programming?