Pentagon Forms a Group to Examine Unexplained Aerial Sightings

The difference in sightings is the number of credible witnesses and the technology used to record the sightings. Military pilots locking on to UAPs and following their incredible maneuverability. I believe more quality videos exist by the Pentagon and hopefully they will be available to the public. What do we really know about their technologies? If the way their aircraft fly is any indication they are far more advanced than we are then using our laws of physics may not apply to them. They might have the technology to warp space and time or they came here a long time ago and have been here since? Proving the objects do the exist and their flight characteristics are for real then that is enough for me to believe they or their drones are here.

 

I wondered about science, not science fiction. Invite them out for a chat. If they come out then I will join your belief. In the meantime it is science fiction.

 

Aliens do not take 'millions of years' to get here. They do not travel in linear fashion, nor do they use reactionary propulsion. No one knows how they do it, but they have, apparently, figured it out. As a layman, I don't care how they do it, I'm interested in what they are doing and why. If they are here, that is all that matters, not where they are from are how they got here.

Science will never get their alien on the WH lawn.

Scientists do not have the luxury of presumption. They have reputations and cannot take chances.

But the rest of us do have the luxury of presumption. I am not trying to 'prove' the concept of alien visitation to scientific satisfaction, I cannot do that, I am not a scientist.

But does that mean us non scientists cannot form opinions based on a plethora of circumstantial evidence?

No, it doesn't. Us non scientists can, indeed, form opinions based on a plethora of circumstantial evidence.

We don't have reputations to worry about, we have that luxury.

And yet others can believe whatever the hell they want. But, for me, I need more than just imagination, I need something.

And we do have something. It's not or is probably not good enough for 'science' per se but it is compelling, if you'll just give it a chance to reveal itself to you.

As for 'yeti' and what you are implying, I understand the point, I do, but you're missing some data, and so I'll expand on my point on hypnosis:

Dr. David Jacobs explains the pros can cons of such testimony, administered by trained hypnotherapists.

1. He acknowledges that, as evidence goes, testimony given under hypnosis is weak. This is true. That being said:

2. He explains what 'confabulation' is ( false memories ) and the protocols he uses to weed it out, how to tell if it is, etc.

3. he tells us that hundreds of persons from all walks of life have given such testimony under hypnosis, undergoing deeply traumatic events, scenarios unvarying in their being recounted, ( confab changes all the time, real things grow more real ) and that, since the 60s when the abductions really started happening, all over the world, the stories told are basically the same, patterns are there, and are inescapable, that:
A. Description of aliens is the pretty much same, with just about everyone, including children
B. Prominent psychiatrist had examined the subjects and found not mental pathology, whatsoever, they were normal people.
C. Most women and men were laid on a medical styled table, examined, mostly neurologically ( not heart, lungs, etc )
D. All women who were capable , eggs were removed from them. Sperm removed from males ( using some kind of machine).

4. The abductions are intergenerational; if mom was abducted so was grandma, and children, and possibly husband, over and over again for years until middle age, then it fades. It starts at a very young age.

5. When someone comes to him, often they hope they are crazy, and they are just having bad dreams. In other words, this is a club that no one wants to belong.

6. People often come forward with great risk of ridicule, losing their jobs, spouse filing for divorce and custody battles, all kinds of problems. No one is doing this for fame and fortune.

7. Without exception, all subjects report that the aliens communicate via telepathy, they have no vocal chords.

8. Aliens have neurological superiority over humans, they can command humans, and humans cannot disobey, they have power over humans, they are superior to humans in every way, except, physical strength.

9. As years pass, the aliens show them 'children' whom they are told are the parents, i.e., alien/hybrid children, and are often enlisted to train the children on how to be human.
A) Note that all hybrids have similar neurological superiority over humans, but, as hybrids, they can communicate verbally and mentally. Depending on the generational/transitional stage of the hybrid, some look more like aliens, some less, and those who look like us are sent to earth to assimilate with Humans, hence the title of the book, 'walking among us'.

10. Aliens are operating, for the most part, clandestinely. This is a world wide clandestine mission. What is their agenda? We can speculate, but 'clandestine' doesn't sound good, by my way of thinking. However, it could be true that they are not trying to panic us, and have benevolence in store. I do not know.

11. Subjects have attempted to garner evidence, such as taping themselves sleeping, but subjects, via neurological engagement, while asleep are commanded to switch off such devices. Also, aliens can, via some radiant beam, switch off all electrical devices.

12. Abductions:
A. Usually happen at night.
B. usually in rural or desert areas.
C. Happen while asleep, and when woken up, are paralyzed.
D Happen while driving down quiet roads, they are commanded to pull over, and then are abducted.
E. Sometimes the UFO craft is in a field, and they are directed to walk towards it
F Sometimes subjects are pulled up to a craft via a tractor beam, going through walls and the ceiling, in a translucent state effected by the beam.
G. Most of these recalls under hypnosis are highly traumatic and frightening beyond belief, but the aliens have methods of soothing and assuage subjects fears, and eventually they get used to it, over time, though they still don't like it happening.

13. If there are persons nearby who are not going to be abducted, aliens are able to switch them off, make them unconscious.

14 After aliens are finished with the subjects, they are returned to wherever they were abducted from. Sometimes:
A) They are put in a different room than where they were abducted
B) They are put outside, an locked out of their house.
C) Their clothes are put back on them wrong ( their clothes are removed during abductions) shirts/PJs backwards, etc
D) They have someone else's clothes put on them.
E) everyone experiences 'missing time' and aliens make them forget what happened, though a few can recall without hypnosis.

I know it sounds fantastic, but I recommend reading the book, "Walking Among Us" by Dr. David Jacobs, which explains all the above in much greater detail, and is far more compelling than how I've presented it.

I know it's probably not good enough for a scientist, but for a non scientist who doesn't have to worry about a reputation to maintain, I find it compelling. Why? The devil is in the abundant consistency of details, so to speak, that's why.

 

At least you have gone to the trouble of inventing some details surrounding your belief. I enjoy science fiction as much as the next guy and I know it when I see it.

 

Please read the book, 'Walking Among Us'.

They are not 'demons' they are galactic neighbors.

The 'ancient aliens' hypothesis, all UFOlogy people know about it. We all know about Ezekiel, etc.

Is it true? I don't know, I suppose it's possible. It's just as possible as the stories in the Bible.

Who knows?

 

I read the book's summary and know the book isn't referring to them as demons. That comes from the Bible. I don't believe galactic neighbors with such technology would be playing cat and mouse with us. Now you see our technology and now you don't. That is more of a tactic a demon would use to frighten humans and distract us from our belief in a God. It is in their actions that leads me to believe they are not galactic neighbors. But I will read the book because they type of sci-fi intrigues me.

 

You think you do.

Try reading the book. I invented nothing.

You might be surprised.

In the meantime, your lack of curiosity will slow your grasp of the subject.

I hate to tell you this, but the visitors simply are not going to let you have your hard evidence, not until they have completed their mission. I didn't make it up.

I know that sounds fantastic, but you really should read the book.

 

No, not at all. But it is apparent they have an agenda.

There are more than one species of aliens. ANd all of them are visiting.

Some are definitely clandestine, apparently some don't care about it as much

The abductors are definitely clandestine. The ones monitoring our military, have a different agenda.

It might be the same aliens, with different departments addressing different aspects of their agenda. No one knows.

when you say 'cat and mouse', you are projecting an anthropogenic frame of reference to an alien species.

That is not wise.

 

IMO, this is just lip service. They already had Blue Book and a few others, and still pretend we on Earth are the only beings in the universe.

This is more of the same.

Any independent thinker familiar with half the facts already knows we've been visited by aliens since the beginning.

 

You and I will explain things differently because we have different ideas about who they are. We don't know what the aliens agenda really is but we do know what the demons agenda is and what they are doing by seemingly toying with us is what a demon would do and not incredibly advanced beings. I see no reason why an advanced being would not have personally contacted us by now possibly by mathematics. Especially since as you claim there are many types with different attitudes towards being stealthy and not. I assume the more bolder aliens would have contacted us. Since demons want to destroy God's children I can see why they'd be interested in military technology that could easily serve their agenda. Only the direct physical probing of the human mind and reproductive organs by demons surprises me as they are forbidden by God to not directly interfere with humans. But since they disobeyed God before I guess it shouldn't be of a surprise they would again disobey God.

 

The problem for governments admitting technologically advanced beings are here on earth and also admitting they cannot product citizens from them would create a huge outcry by citizens who would want to know why they are paying their government large sums of money to do just that? Eventually citizens may get what they are hoping for yet may regret it. It will turn this world upside down.

 

People can handle the truth far better than you might think they can.

Everybody knows the government lies for a living. It's old news. Everybody knows the government does not give a damn about the people. Giving them worthless currency while simultaneously destroying the republic does not make the government beneficent.

 

The Wright brothers flew for the first time in 1903 and then a short 66 years later Man flew to the Moon, now Elon Musk is talking about the first manned missions to Mars in 2024. For an extraterrestrial race that might be thousands or perhaps millions of years advanced of Humans, they might have figured out how to travel light years across space in ways we are only beginning to understand. Look at this crazy Tic Tac UFO they've been tracking lately, it can do maneuvers and travel at speeds in the air and underwater that make our fastest jets and submarines look like Horse and Buggies. Personally, I don't believe that whatever these UFO's are come from the US or that China or Russia have made some sort of technology jump that should would be extremely concerning, since these craft are spotted near our Nuclear facilities a lot, but are more likely some kind of undersea race far advanced to land dwelling Humans that we don't know existed. it's either that or Aliens from Outer Space are real, sending probes here and studying us like were sending Probes and Satelites trying to find Microbes on the Moon or Mars. I find it FACINATING

This 60 minute episode is a real Eye opener

 

Never said people couldn't handle the truth. But once this truth out people will change their entire belief system making them very unpredictable which scares governments.

 

I think I see your point, but if we follow that to its logical conclusion, the people should be treated like mushrooms.

Yes, what you've said fits in nicely with what William Casey of the CIA said in 1981: When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.

 

I truly believe that if Aliens were to come down and land at the White House lawn, the Government and Peoples reactions wouldn't be very good and that would indeed be a problem. Always loved this scene from The Day the Earth stood Still from 1951, which could very well be our reaction today if Aliens come in Peace.

 

Supposedly Reagan was the benefactor of this quote yet he never mentioned it anywhere that I'm aware of. I have no doubt that would have set Reagan back. If Casey meant the CIA was brainwashing Americans than he just admitted to a crime since the CIA is by law restricted from operating on US soil. Reagan would have known that. Only one source? Not buying that.

 

When it comes to ETs, ones imagination can get carried away.

 

I really hope, this isn't how they're experimenting on us based on a True story, because it would be truly horrifying, non carrying Woke Liberals are probably the preferred subjects Aliens experiment on, since they don't have the means to put up a Fight, whereas my Marlin 45/70 might deter these menacing beings from outer space from messing with me.

 

First, let's leave 'God' out of it, okay?

"Demons' are a religious item, so let's leave demons out of it, okay?

Now then, my point was, trying to figure how aliens think and act is to project anthropocentric frameworks on an alien species.

My point is that we really cannot do that, eh? Think about it, think about what 'anthropocentric' means.

Therefore, there isn't really any assumptions that can be made about them, other than they are here. We agree on that point.

Now then, if we do project our human frames of reference upon them, let us do it, carefully, ever so carefully.

 

In bold, I totally agree with this. As for an agenda, IDK but it can't be political nor is it limited to one nation.

 

It is good to have something available that entertains you. Nothing wrong with that. Nevertheless, after 80 some years, still no extraterrestrial aliens. Not a single one. Sorry, I can't watch internet videos because I have metered internet. I'm sure your links are entertaining.

 

I think would prefer a good science fiction book instead.

 

You know what lets leave aliens out of this was well.

 

I am not a science fiction fan nor have I ever seen anything I could not explain but I can use scientific reasoning so I just ordered the book as it sounds extremely interesting ... thx for the tip ...