Perry Fights Letting Gays in Boy Scouts

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Think for myself, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    So far, you have not posted anything to support your POV. When you can, let us know.
     
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    Specifically which point of view and which post complete with quote and link to a credible source do you and the cabal take issue with? No blanket bias against me. Stop the ad hominem.
     
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    Your point of view that most gay people have been abused and are abusers of children. Also, you claiming that child sex abuse makes people gay. The study you posted in no way says any of that. We, in turn have posted studies to illustrate the opposite of what you claim.
     
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    Well, your studies come from questionable sources, or at least inferior ones subject to geographical political areas [California]. If a gay study comes out of UC Davis, a stone's throw away from ground zero, I'm going to take it with a grain of salt. If it comes from the Mayo Clinic or the CDC, I'm going to sit up in my chair and listen a little better. It's often good to listen to impartial people instead of the very subjective voices of the choir.. especially when they own the APA..and the various institutions it funds or holds some other sway over... http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...on-constitution-itself-via-doma-prop-8-a.html

    From my POV, it looks like the APA v the Mayo Clinic & the CDC...because clearly they are at loggerheads with the above information. A clue of who to trust can be found by following the link to the other thread at the top of this post.
     
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    your problem silly, is that your sources don't say what you keep claiming they do. leek is just pointing out your misrepresentations and outright lies. like everyone else does.
     
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    Your link does not in any way say that gay people are gay because they were abused, nor does it say that most gay people are pedophiles. YOu keep posting this link as if that's what it says, when it most certainly does not. You also need to prove that the APA is owned by gay people That's the most idiotic thing you've said so far.

    Another thing for you:

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths
     
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    The CDC study says there's an epidemic in gay men of having been sexually abused as children. When the CDC says "epidemic" they're not allowed to use hyperbole. So I'll take it as important information.

    The Mayo clinic then goes on to say that one of the major predictors of a person turning into a molestor, via the "Abused-abuser" syndrome is their having been sexually abused as a child...that it is in all likihood a learned behavior.
     
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    One more time- nowhere in anything you posted does it say that child sexual abuse makes people gay. Also, nowhere in anything you posted does it say that most gay people are child molesters. NOWHERE. Now knock it off with the trolling.
     
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    http://faculty.washington.edu/eloftus/Articles/sciam.htm
    Its been done in medical experiments, so I'm not making things up here. Unless you're going to try and claim that psychology is bull, you're wrong. And I'm not talking about a child coming forward a month later, I'm talking about someone who goes to a doctor at 30 with no memory of abuse and within a few weeks or months is suddenly recalling vivid details of a sexual abuse that may not have happened. And what you actually posted sounded a lot like that -- people who suddenly recall 30 years later. If a kid tells me he was abused, yes I'll believe him. If some 30 year old goes to a hypnotist and recalls something that no one else seems to recall and that he himself didn't remember, then no it's probably not a real memory.

    There's a difference between someone making something up to get attention and someone being induced to remember an event by having another person insist that that event happened. It's probably rare, but it does happen, and it's one reason I'm suspicious of any person who claims a sudden repressed memory.
     

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