personal account of a woman who stopped being gay

You didn't read a word that I said. The pressure can come from forced molestation by way of a psychological disorder brought upon by that molestation. Try addressing it next time.

The fallacy of the far left gay mafia is assuming all choices are conscious ones.

 

Yes I did, but not a word you said was relevant to my post. Talking about forced molestation has nothing to do with the intolerance of society.

 

Theoretically, in a world with a massive gay supermajority and pretty much exactly the opposite societal bigotry. Your claim about molestation is interesting; care to back it up with, oh, I don't know, evidence? You know, that thing that you seem to utterly despise? Yes, I think it makes sense that you provide evidence for a claim that runs against what most psychological institutions the world over say about human sexuality. Sue me.

Look, the fact is, when you look at what this woman says, she's quite blatantly and clearly unhinged. She's had an extremely hard life, and has proceeded to blame her sexual orientation for all the ills in her life (including things like drug abuse). She's also projected her experience onto, well, all other homosexuals. I don't believe the story that she changed her sexual orientation for a minute. I honestly don't. And without any sort of scientific test, I don't see why anyone should.

Women like this would be a problem for the current models of sexuality if they could actually demonstrate that they changed their sexuality within any bounds of scientific rigor. Otherwise, all we have are more Ted Haggards and John Paulks. Because contrary to your assertions about molestation, in such cases, we can clearly see the societal pressures on these individuals to lie. Just like with this woman: she's obviously not just church-going, but church-obsessed, and her position as the latest "ex-gay" football has given her a fair bit of air time.

 

Your post included pressure to become straight which I reversed by pointing out the far greater molestation of children by homosexual pedophiles. Telling only have the story of your post isn't helping you.

 

Just more lies for the pile huh Stagnant? It is you who produce zero evidence to make your claims. Name one argument I have made I haven't supported with links. Back up your lie.

And what claim are you referring to? Be specific so I don't have to repeat myself to you over and over again.

So your evidence is supposition and opinion. Typical stagnant. You have no idea what she was thinking or feeling. You judge her only by your own bias and bigoted emotional state.

You are seriously challenging the evidence on molestation? LOL This has been given over and over and over and over again.

And once again

Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts.

See that Stag? Its called evidence.

http://www.abusewatch.net/pedophiles.pdf


Now, shock us all for once and back up your claims with any evidence whatsoever other than personal experience and emotion.

 

but you need to understand the goal posts get moved and we are not allowed to segment pedophilia based upon the type of the sexual act. If we do that, which is valid to do btw, then it shows a propensity which goes against the liberal narrative

 

"You didn't read a word that I said. The pressure can come from forced molestation by way of a psychological disorder brought upon by that molestation. Try addressing it next time."

Err... What?
http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-l...man-who-stopped-being-gay.html#post1062894330

These are not statements from a sane individual.

No. I am specifically challenging the evidence that being molested can cause the kind of societal pressure you assert to make someone lie to themselves and others about their sexual identity.

 

I am not talking about pedophilia, so your comments about it are irrelevant. I was talking about the pressure of society that result's in the phenomenon of closeted gays. Trying to compare that to straights being pressured to pretend to be gay because of pedophiles is illogical. There is no such thing as someone in the closet who is pretending to be gay, afraid to come out as straight. That is nonsense, and you know it.

 

It's not news that homosexuals have a higher prevalence of being molested. But there's absolutely no evidence of a causal link, and no reason to believe one exists. It's like pointing to the higher prevalence of drug abuse among homosexuals and saying, "Drugs make people gay".

"My opinion". Well, to be fair, you'd probably reject my claim that posts like this are completely (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bonkers, so I'd say your opinion on my opinion is pretty much moot. I'm pointing out that this woman:
- Holds beliefs in line with the WBC
- Quite clearly wishes for "satan to be driven out" - i.e. that homosexuals would disappear for good
- Has had a very difficult experience and is projecting that on everyone else
- Bears all of the hallmarks of an "ex-gay success story" that never really was.

Dude, where the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you get this (*)(*)(*)(*)? Jack Chick?

Yeah, no, sorry. I had a weird childhood (not too many other kids skip out on third grade to go on a cross-country trip and a Mexican folks-dance camp, or have parents host a state-wide music festival when they were six), but I was never abused. I had loving parents, a whole bunch of adult friends who took really good care of me... I guess I would say I have a very mild Oedipus complex, probably due to having primarily adult friends during childhood, but abused? Never happened.

You know why I dated that woman? Because she was available and willing, because I was lonely and horny, and because I never got along well with those my own age, because they were too immature. She, on the other hand, had been around the block, and I could actually hold real conversations with her - whereas most of the kids my own age were either immature beyond belief with no interest in the things I enjoyed or such ludicrous introverts that I couldn't connect with them. But for you to just assume that I was abused when I was young... Yeah. No. That's not okay. That is absolutely not okay.

 

LOL So you admit the truth but the obvious implication you deny. Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support this >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<< claim?

. You and the rest of the far left are so threatened by a woman like this >>>MOD EDIT: INSULTS<<<

Let's try this. Can you think of any scenario where a gay woman could go straight? Let's see how far this religion of yours takes you.

I explain in the next part.

LOL Sure you did. The very fact you described it as "weird" in the first sentence speaking about your childhood when confronted with the reality of abuse speaks volumes.

One of my family members is a psychotherapist. 2 master degrees and he makes over 200 an hour. Never has he tried to "cure" homosexuals but has shared with me his experiences with the patients who were gay that came to him. >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<<

 

I didn't make a claim. I rebuked your claim by pointing out that you have demonstrated correlation, not causality.

No, we're bothered by the people who believe this woman. The people for whom this woman is ammunition - people like the people behind HeartStrong and Love Won Out. Gay teens are threatened by parents who will believe the insanity this woman spouts and take their children to be "fixed".

What, you mean change their sexual identity? Or just have sex with a man? Because while the latter is easy (lots of money, rape, societal pressures), the former is basically seen as virtually impossible.

I'm going to say it again. This is not okay.