'Peter' the 'son of a carpenter' favourite to become next pope??

if he gets the job then does it mean that St Malachy prediction is true and this last pope called Peter will destroy Rome and oversee the apocalypse?

are we heading that way?


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cardinal-turkson-africas-best-hope-pope

 

But he may not be 'the' last Pope

... to be called Peter...

... might be another one on down the line.

 

not according to St Malachy prediction

this is apparently supposed to be the last one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

Proponents of the prophecies claim that Pope Benedict XVI corresponded to the pope described in the penultimate prophecy. The list ends with a pope identified as "Peter the Roman", whose pontificate will allegedly bring the destruction of the city of Rome and usher in the beginning of the Apocalypse.

 

He's not a Roman.

 

Is the popes seat in Rome?

Is the pope the bishop of Rome?

Does the prophecy only mean has has to be Italian?

Maybe not

 

Cardinal Bertone is from Rome, his middle name is Peter, and according to those in the know, the job is his if he wants it....but how does he say he will do it? for the longest time, Cardinals won't even consider voting for someone that campaigns for the job.

 

supporting the pedophiles and their crimes seems to be the main concern and qualification.............................

that's the one who will win I guess and if that is the reason then Malachy might be right after all and the end of the world is near

for sure this is another sign the world is coming to an end

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21724814

 

Taken in the context of legitimate accuracy surrounding anything to do with Catholicism and the faith it claims...a prophecy is even less likely than the stories in the books that form its foundation.

The Popes of today wield very little power in comparison to those of old...as the faith is dying and tarnished while it fades.

 

wut? my dog watched the Animal Channel all the time.

 

popes were butchers

now they are pedophiles

no wonder many Christians left that sect

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yes I'm sure it does

do you put a dress on it too and perfume?

 

Exactly my sentiments, I guess we'll be around for a while.

But even if he was to be the last Pope, it doesn't mean the end of the Church or the world. What it probably means is that the institution of the papacy will revert to its original status, and once again become the first among equals rather than the head of the RCC. Of course I'm only guessing here.

 

The world is not coming to an end, and I'll tell you why. The elder at the monastery I go to has a lot of spiritual insight. I'm sure he wouldn't have used building materials that could last for three hundred years if he knew the world would end. I mean come on now, if anyone would know it would be him. ..at least in my mind.

 

The stories in the books that form its foundation, is the very foundation that Christianity was built on. Without it there would be no Christianity. As for the power of the Popes, the first thousand years the Pope was merely the first among equals. In other words, among the first five bishops of the universal Church, he was held in greater honor.

The succession was: The Pope of Rome, the Patriarch of Constantinople (New Rome), The Patriarch of Jerusalem, The Patriarch of Antioch, and the Patriarch of Alexandria. As for the faith dying, Christianity can never die and the Catholic Church today is its greatest advocate. If it wasn't so, it wouldn't be attacked so fervently.

 

So then, the cardinals who are charged with electing their new boss are the self-same cardinals who presided over the world-wide buggery and paedophilia scandal along with their disgraced ex-boss ? Not a lot of change forecast then

 

If you see the Catholic Church in that light, rather than the tens of thousands of institutions that have been feeding, helping and civilizing the world for two thousand years, then that's your problem.

 

It would be interesting if, say, the next papa is this Peter guy, and then Rome is somehow destroyed even while armies are gathering in the Middle East around Syria, Israel and/or Iran for war, and then there's a thermo-nuke war that actually does destroy world civilisation. That would bring about a couple of prophecies as they're interpreted by a number of people today, wouldn't it?

But, would they not also then be self-fulfilling prophecies? Might we have madmen in charge who want to see these ancient writings brought about for their own religious purposes? I do see a real threat of global nuclear war with this crap in the ME, with China and Russia more or less opposing our stubborn intentions there to take down a number of countries, culminating in the fall of Iran, all to try and save our petrodollar.

 

My contention is with its decadent leadership. By trying to conceal them behind Catholicism's general membership you are committing the same error as the , recently deposed, Baron of Buggery and all his Lesser Lechers.

 

I see Pope Benedict XVI and Pope John Paul II as saints, and I am not even Catholic. I'm sure many of the Cardinals and Bishops are also saintly. To condemn the tens of thousands of sacrificial bishops, priests, monks and nuns, who have given up everything in life because of the weakness' and immoralities of a few, is not very smart I think?

Also there is a problem in Christianity, in that almost all glorified Christian saints were calumniated during their lifetime, so the leadership has to tread very carefully. The first person to be accused of pedophilia was the bishop of Chicago. Later on the boy that accused him said it was not true.

They say that God works in mysterious way, but the devil does too.

 

I'm Orthodox and a saintly Elder of ours who had died about fifteen years ago gave us a few prophecies. Later on he was surprised to find that many of the prophecies attributed to him he had never said. So one has to be careful as to what is credible and what is not. I have to laugh though at some of these so called Americn 'prophets'. One said that there will be trouble in the Far East. Of course there will be, when hasn't there been? Another one of his prophecies is that there will be power outages caused by the sun. Well everyone knows that.

Anyway this saintly elder said that the average person should never try to interpret prophecies. But as you said, some can be self fulfilling, that is if people allow themselves to be led by them. .

 

Oh yes, there's a lot of silly stuff that comes with religion. And why shouldn't it? Religion tends to be very mystical and hostile to critical thinking, emphasising such values as faith and superstition.

I think prophecies are 100% bunk, personally. I think the very idea of them came from early astrology, from that first human endeavour to predict events, in that case in the skies above. From that would have come the superstitious idea that the fate of humanity was "written" in the stars, waiting to be read by priests and astrologers, etc. And that would then have ultimately evolved into prophecy as we know it from Judeo-Christian and certain other religious traditions today.

Remember, it was magi - Persian astrologers, basically - who purportedly followed a star to find the Christ child (whom I believe to be allegorical of the sun at its (re-)birth after Winter Solstice). Astrology had a practical side before it was eventually divorced later on from both religion and astronomy to become the complete farce that it is today. Back then, it was a different kind of farce

 

I think Berlusconi is in charge of destroying Rome.

 

Great answer, I'm still laughing!

 

Some prophets have been accurate such as the witch Mother Shipton, and the warlock Nostradamus. But I prefer prophecies by devout people such as the Serbian prophet: Mitar Tarabich. He goes into depth about our foolishness, and how man will be digging holes all over the earth in search of power when there is power all around him, and how man will think he knows everything, and do whatever his book of numbers tell him, (accounting books). In other words everything will be profit oriented.

He says that some of these people will be evil and destroy the world, (dumping waste in the seas, etc.), and others will get fed up and see the uselessness of it all and go into monasteries. He tells of how many people will not even know who their grandparents are, (sperm banks), and that there will be marriages where people will not know who the bride is, (homosexual marriages).

Check him out!

 

I think you're reading a bit much into what Mitar Tarabich said/wrote. Look at it all objectively - everything he said according to you is basically timeless.. It's continually true and always being "fulfilled." The language is vague, which allows the listener/reader to fill in the blanks. It's a psychological trick, in the end. You added the bit about dumping waste into the seas. That's not even "destroying the world," though it's not much good for sea critters either, I grant you. I really have to chuckle at the sperm banks, though And the homosexual marriages. In fact, looking this guy up and taking that bit about the brides in context, we see:

"Here at home it will be the same as all over the world. People will start to hate clean air and this divine freshness and all divine beauty, and will hide in rankness. Nobody will force them to do that, but they will do it of their own free will. Here in Kremna, many a field will become a meadow and many a home will be abandoned, but then those who have left will come back to heal themselves by breathing fresh air. In Serbia, it will not be possible to distinguish a man from a woman. Everybody will dress the same. This calamity will come to us from abroad, but it will stay with us the longest. A groom will take a bride, but nobody will know who is who. People will be lost and more and more senseless day by day. Men will be born not knowing who was their grandfather and great-grandfather. People will think that they know everything, but not a thing they will know."

I don't think you can say that's a gay marriage reference. Sounds more like he was worrying about fashion.

 

But even if it was fashion and or mannerisms, those things would have been unheard of before the beginning of the last century. Also what about making holes in the ground for energy, when it didn't exist? As for his credibility, it lies in what he said about Serbia. To be honest, I find his writings so incredible, that I can't help but wonder if it was written after the events, and that its all a big joke.