Phoenix police kill ex-NFL player Ekom Udofia, bodycam footage shows

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  1. Reasonablerob

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    Yes, because they are more involved in violent crime and have previous criminal records.
     
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    Yes but not on those attacking them, if they had those they'd definitely have shot them and been totally justified. There is no white privilege, there is black failure.
     
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    It most certainly does not prove ANYTHING you've said. Blacks are already committing more crime, adding drug charges just makes it worse.

    But that doesn't fit your narrative. It's not black peoples' fault for committing crimes, it's somehow the cops fault.

    You're adorable.
     
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    Obviously you got no clue what's going on. They shot a woman, not a man.
    And when 60 cops got hurt, and 1 got killed... and they did not shoot anybody over it, while they do shoot black people for something like fleeing away.
    It's such a non discussion that white fascists got treated with the upmost restraint possible. Get over it.
     
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    I proved white people get ignored by 250% margin on drug related crimes, when THEY are punching above their weight doing them crimes.
    And there is no excuse for it.

    And you only got the stats on who gets arrested for violent crimes.
    If that gets to be a 250% margin, than it's obvious who gets the most previous criminal record.
     
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    You make no sense. You now admit that them thugs with badges show exceptionally restraint against them fascists who attacked them, by not shooting.
    While them same thugs with badges show no restraint when black people who flee get shot in the back.

    You got simply no excuse for this.
    Racism is so over the top present in the police force. Get over it.
     
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    You previously denied I proved that white people do more drug related crimes, yet black people get arrested 250% more often vs white. And now that I have, you're just ranting utter nonsense. lol

    Utterly pathetic.
     
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    Yes, I still deny it because you totally ignore FBI crime stats and blame racist police officers for the incredibly vast number of crimes black people commit that are light years past their % as Americans.

    blaming the cops for the crime black people do is preposterous and should be mocked.
     
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    The man in this incident, the police have faced the same at the hands of BLM/Antifa for years and responded exactly the same way. They don't shoot anyone for running away and don't care about their colour, only their behaviour.

    It is a non discussion, these weren't fascists and the police acted correctly.
     
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    No, you have it the wrong way around, black people get arrested more for drug offences because they draw attention to themselves through their violence. There is no white supremacy, only black failure.
     
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    Your replies are nonsensical, you now admit that THOSE heroic officers showed admirable restraint to the capitol rioters and kill black people because they commit more violent crime and pose an instant threat to life.

    I don't need excuses, there is no racism present in the police, get over it.
     
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    I sourced it's true that white people do more drug related crimes but get arrested 250% less often over this.
    You have not debunked it with anything.

    I don't ignore the FBI stats. But them are just the stats of who gets arrested.
    There is no correlation between arrests and who does the crime.
    I already proved that.
     
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    Your contention that black people really aren't doing the crimes and the cops are arresting them anyway is hilarious. It turns out every crime statistic shows you're the mayor of Wrongville. Next up, what you're doing is only illegal if the right cops catch you...
     
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    Pff... "They don't shoot anyone for running away"... multiple courtcases are still in progess against cops who did this. While the images how a white cop strangled a faced down handcuffed black man to death over the course of around 9 minutes went global. And this shows exactly that nothing has changed. This just 1 on 1 how things went down with Garner. And we both know LOADS of people on this board support the actions how the cops lynch black people for tiny infractions with the meme of "don't resist if you don't want to get killed"..... and that's a FAR and FAR cry how cops reacted when they were attacked by white fascists.

    And you got no explanation how this difference is night and day.
     
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    You're just making it all up that black people draw more attention in order to claim there is no white supremacy.
     
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    Them fascists KILLED a cop on the 6th of januari and injured them a dozen an hour. That proves the cops were being threating with their very lives for hours on end, yet did not shoot a white person where they do shoot black people in a second with no remorse. And you can not explain the massive difference the entire world saw unfold.


    And you can not prove black people commit more violent crimes. You can only prove they get arrested more. There is NO correlation between who the cops arrest and who commits a crime. I proved that by showing white people do more drug related crimes while white people get away with it by 250% margin vs black. You're just pushing a racist narrative that the people who commit crimes are simply represented in the numbers in who gets arrested. You have never proved it!
     
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    Not one thing you just said is true. You're making up whatever you want, and have nothing but conjecture on your side. How are you allowed to do this???
     
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    I already sourced that white people do more drug related crimes, while black people get arrested 250% more often.
    And all you got going to rebuke that is saying (in my opinion) it aint true.

    You're little opinion is not relevant! lol
     
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    Yeah, name me some please? Or are you just making it up through your prejudice? Where are these images? What incident are you referring to? I don't recall anything like that? Garner who? Not Eric Garner who died from underlying health problems after resisting arrest, surely? When did cops lynch anyone? What on earth are you talking about? I don't need an explanation because the police treat everyone the same, plain and simple.
     
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    Who ever claimed that? I just pointed out what is obvious to all, there is no white supremacy, only black failure compared to other races (and not just whites).
     
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    You made that up, we have the numbers showing who commits what crimes. That's not what's important to you, you just want to blame the police for the bad behavior exhibited by black people as represented by the exact numbers in the FBI crime stats.

    I guess those same people who don't pay their bills or attend to their kids, is that the fault of the police too?
     
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    You know we still haven't established exactly how. Can anyone specify that? The police acted no differently that they did in hundreds of Antifa/BLM riots over the last few years. They shot this mentally ill black man armed with a gun because he posed an immediate deadly threat to life. Hell, during the Capitol riots the police shot an unarmed white woman and no one is complaining, they believe in the police and know this was almost certainly justified.

    Black people commit more violent crimes unless millions of victims are inexplicably lying. What's more they are far more likely to be the victims of violent crime than virtually anyone else. Not from the police or white people but from one another, black on black violence is the real problem. There is no white supremacy, there is only black failure, until you address it they will never change.
     
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    Garner was murdered by the cop, since the coroners ruled it to be a homicide.
    The disciplinary hearing of the cops advised the cops who did it should be fired.
    Subsequently the cop got fired over this.
    The city paid 5.9 million bucks for the wrongful death.

    You, and people like you, still claim it aint so... its part of just parroting a fascist theme that a cop can do no wrong killing a black person for no reason, and that it's all a conspiracy that the cop had to be fired. It's just racist fake news.

    My previous posts stands.
     
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    You claimed "they draw attention to themselves" when confronted that white people punch above their weight doing drug related crimes, yet black people get arrested 250% more. You made that claim up, and can't found it on anything. Hence my argument stands that there is institutionalized racism. The entire world was able to spot the massive difference on the 6th of january where cops got hurt by the dozens an hour when the fascists were trying to kill them... yet suddenly there was no such thing as "fearing for my life so I shot the culprit"... as what the cops do to black people all the time.
     
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    Nope. I sourced it:
    https://www.hamiltonproject.org/cha...y_race_rates_of_drug_related_criminal_justice

    You don't have the numbers who commit the crimes.
    You only got numbers who got arrested.
    That's deliberately leaving out who got away.

    I proved there is a difference of 250% of white people getting away with it in their favor.
     

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