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Please cite your best evidence of "no-planes"

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  1. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!
     
    Gamolon, Dec 12, 2013
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    you cant because that is what a cgi blunder looks like and since there are so many more good luck with that.

    [​IMG]

    so simple you know
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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  3. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    No, you're not understanding.

    Why is your supposed "archived video" and better than the HD video I posted? They are both originally from the same source right? The Hezarkhani video?
     
    Gamolon, Dec 12, 2013
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  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    you cant increase the quality of a video from standard to HD, yours is modified I already pointed that out. you are wasting my time again with your circular UNreasoning
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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  5. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    So these conversion steps for the video I posted are wrong? The original video was mpeg-2. Explain what is wrong with the process below.

    Here's the video information.
    Original mpeg-2 footage processing steps:

    Deinterlace Unfold
    SuperResolution Upscaling to 720p
    Deinterlace Fold
    Bob Double

    No colour treatment.
    No rescaling.

    Framerate set to 10fps.

    True framerate is x 5.994

    Maybe you need to read up on your "vast" video knowledge before making comments. Look at mpeg-2 and 720p and get back to me.
     
    Gamolon, Dec 12, 2013
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  6. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    What video format is your "archived video" in Koko?
     
    Gamolon, Dec 12, 2013
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  7. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Gamolon, Dec 12, 2013
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    Koko doesn't know **** about video clips. When I first arrived here at PF I went through page after page with him on my first Pentagon thread, trying to explain to him that the video I was using was a higher quality re-recording of the original video of the Pentagon crash; therefore you could make out more detail. He couldn't understand that his small resolution, blurry, unfocused gifs and videos he was posting show far less detail than higher quality ones available. According to koko, HD and 240p should show the exact same detail. He is hopeless.
     
    cjnewson88, Dec 12, 2013
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  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    there is not such thing as making a higher quality from lower quality, you can only change its appearance, like anything else with a/v/computer

    garbage in garbage out.

    the reason you have such difficulty with me is because I dont fall for gimmicks.
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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  10. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    LOL!

    I really don't think that's it Koko.

    - - - Updated - - -

    What the relationship between mpeg-2 and 720p.

    Also, you missed this.

    http://www.infognition.com/videoenhancer/
     
    Gamolon, Dec 12, 2013
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    <<< MODERATOR EDIT: OFF TOPIC >>>

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    nope I didnt miss anything, you cant convert low res into hi res, dont work that way, however you can convert hi res to low res.

    I dont care if you have 1080p from 320x200
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd love to see the evidence that ALL of the videos showing a plane crashing into the south tower, are fake.

    I know that no such evidence exists, but I'd still love to see it. :)
     
    Ronstar, Dec 12, 2013
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    The original was mpeg-2. What correlation does that have with 720p?

    What does video up-scaling have to do with the wing of plane "appearing"? You have no clue do you?
     
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    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    What format is your "archived video" Koko?
     
    Gamolon, Dec 12, 2013
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    He doesn't have a clue...
     
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    completely irrelevant

    all you HD crap is doing is multiplying the bit count and averaging.

    the whole premise you can get something from nothing, or a lot from a little is a farce
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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    These doctored GIF files make the rounds.

    They will say the version you have has been doctored since the first ones were released.

    That's why this guy works in GIFs and not actual videos.
    Easier to edit.



    [video=youtube;XxNcCEKocL0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxNcCEKocL0[/video]

    Another failure for the "GIF proof"
     
    Micketto, Dec 12, 2013
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  18. Kokomojojo

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    that just showed how you were wrong

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    are you kidding?

    does it get any easier than the creators?

    [​IMG]


    far easier to create it than putz around with gifs.

    all moving pictures are a chronological series of still pictures. does not matter if they are png, jpg, gif, tiff, tga, pcx and on and on and on

    oh and that wasnt a failure for gif proof that was a failure for HD proof LOL
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear...

    Koko thinks we took a 240p and made it HD...

    when in fact what we are getting at here is that he took an HD film and made it 240p.

    Now he can't figure out why his 240p doesn't show as much detail..
     
    cjnewson88, Dec 12, 2013
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    It looks no different than the original

    that only applies if you are going from 1080 to 120x200 or some ridiculous low resolution where you can literaly no longer recognize anything.

    nice red herring dead end
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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    Blurry and unfocused = "just like the original"..
     
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    you got it!
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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    Or say converting to an indexed color space which literally throws out information.
     
    Fangbeer, Dec 12, 2013
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  24. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh both wings?

    and just happens to add explosions before the alleged stretch nose even impacts the building

    how convenient?

    [​IMG]

    no reason to do that

    [​IMG]

    and look at the shadows on the building!!!!
     
    Kokomojojo, Dec 12, 2013
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    Yay more blurry gifs.
    <<< MODERATOR EDIT: OFF TOPIC/INSULT >>>
     
    cjnewson88, Dec 12, 2013
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